Hello everyone, I'm new here and i have been reading many useful answers from others, now i have a question about passive and active.

It seems that the passive form has lets say a weird sentence, I'm a foreigner.

So, this sentence;

She was known to have had at least seven husbands.

I think it is in passive, and active would be : She is known to have had at least seven husbands. But I'm not sure, can anyone give me the correct answer ?

Last question, when do we use two passive forms ?

People say that she loved him.

It is said that she loved him.

She is said to have loved him.

Thanks.
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Both of the following are passive. The first is in the present tense; the second in the past tense.

She is known to have had at least seven husbands.

She was known to have had at least seven husbands.

to have had is a perfect infinitive. It has nothing to do with passives.

<< when do we use two passive forms ? >>

None of your examples have two passive forms. Again, to have loved has nothing to do with passives. It's only is said that is passive.

CJ
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She was known to have had at least seven husbands. (passive voice)

People knew that she had at least seven husbands. (active voice)

Last question, when do we use two passive forms ?

People say that she loved him. (active)

It is said that she loved him. (passive)

She is said to have loved him. (passive)

You can use any of these.
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Thank you very much . But i still don't know when can i use two passive forms like in the example i gave ? For example

Thieves robbed a woman. (active)

A woman was robbed by thieves. (passive) , now is it possible to make another passive form like in the example from the first post ?
pucciThank you very much . But i still don't know when can i use two passive forms like in the example i gave ? For example
Thieves robbed a woman. (active)
A woman was robbed by thieves. (passive) , now is it possible to make another passive form like in the example from the first post ?
Your question is not clear. Do you mean two passive clauses in a sentence? Yes, that is possible:

People said that she loved him. (active/active)

It was said that she loved him. (passive/active)

It was said that he was loved by her. (passive/passive)

People said that he was loved by her. (active / passive)
"

People say that she loved him. (active)

It is said that she loved him. (passive)

She is said to have loved him. (passive) "

There are two passive forms, now my question is, how do i know when i can give two examples of passive ? How do i know when i can give two examples of passive sentences ? Like with the one above .
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I think I understand your question.

The answer is that there is usually only one way to recast a sentence from active to passive. These two forms are taking advantage of slightly different meanings of the verb "say":

It is said that she loved him. (passive) = People say that she loved him.

She is said to have loved him. (passive) = She is purported (alleged) to have loved him.
pucci"
People say that she loved him. (active)
It is said that she loved him. (passive)
She is said to have loved him. (passive) "
There are two passive forms, now my question is, how do i know when i can give two examples of passive ? How do i know when i can give two examples of passive sentences ? Like with the one above .
You can only promote the subject of the subordinate clause to become the subject of the main clause if you have a certain kind of verb in the main clause, like say, report, claim, think, believe, know, and so on - verbs of reporting or mental understanding.

Main clause. Subordinate clause.

It is said that she loved him.< "First passive" with dummy "it".

She is said to have loved him. < "Second passive" with its predicate changed to an infinitive.

____________

If the original subordinate is in the present tense, you use the simple infinitive:

It is said that she loves him.

She is said to love him.

____________

Other examples:

It is believed that they invented television.

They are believed to have invented television.

It is thought that the First National Bank is the best in town.

The First National Bank is thought to be the best in town.

____________

You can't do this with most other verbs:

*It is decided that they ran away. No!

*They are decided to have run away. No!

*It was checked that everyone was there. No!

*Everyone was checked to have been there. No!

CJ
Great explanation, CJ!

I missed the infinitive to clause conversion where the subject of the object infinitive phrase is "promoted" to be the subject of the main clause (in passive voice).

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