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Last Tuesday I went to the supermarket and saw John. Earlier that day, I was jogging/had been jogging and ran/had run into John's mom. What a coincidence!



Is it correct to say "ran" after had been jogging? If so, why? Is it natural? Thank you.

Also, would it be okay to just use the "was jogging" and "ran" instead of the past perfect?

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NecrophagistIs it correct to say "ran" after had been jogging?

Yes.

Necrophagistwhy?

Once you establish the time frame with the past perfect you don't have to keep using the past perfect again and again and again for every event that occurred within that time frame. It's not wrong to do that, but it gets tiresome for the reader or listener to have all those 'had's in the text when just one (or maybe two in a longer passage) would do.

NecrophagistIs it natural?

Yes.

Necrophagistwould it be okay to just use the "was jogging" and "ran" instead of the past perfect?

Yes, but in your text "earlier that day" is sure to set up the expectation that a past perfect is coming up, and I would not want to disappoint anyone at that point. Emotion: smile

CJ

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NecrophagistIs it correct to say "ran" after had been jogging?

Yes.

Necrophagistwhy?

Once you establish the time frame with the past perfect you don't have to keep using the past perfect again and again and again for every event that occurred within that time frame. It's not wrong to do that, but it gets tiresome for the reader or listener to have all those 'had's in the text when just one (or maybe two in a longer passage) would do.

NecrophagistIs it natural?

Yes.

Necrophagistwould it be okay to just use the "was jogging" and "ran" instead of the past perfect?

Yes, but in your text "earlier that day" is sure to set up the expectation that a past perfect is coming up, and I would not want to disappoint anyone at that point.

CJ

Thank you so much! I understand everything, but I still have one last question. You said using "was jogging" and "ran" would be correct but that I should still probably use the past perfect at least with the "jogging" part. Does that mean that "was jogging" would seem unnatural? Thank you!

NecrophagistI should still probably use the past perfect at least with the "jogging" part. Does that mean that "was jogging" would seem unnatural?

That's a matter of opinion, so it depends who you ask. "was jogging" does seem unnatural to me, but others might find it natural.

CJ

But unnatural in what sense? In that it sounds like something only a non-native would say, or does it just personally sound unnatural to you but you could still hear actual native speakers use it?

CalifJim
NecrophagistI should still probably use the past perfect at least with the "jogging" part. Does that mean that "was jogging" would seem unnatural?

That's a matter of opinion, so it depends who you ask. "was jogging" does seem unnatural to me, but others might find it natural.

CJ

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Necrophagistdoes it just personally sound unnatural to you but you could still hear actual native speakers use it?

Yes. This one.

CJ