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Hi,
1) i have a problem with a sentence like that:
"After entering the flat, we noticed that somebody had broken in."

could it be:
"After entering the flat, we've noteiced that sb had broken in." ?

if not - why not?
2) another thing:
"After entering the flat, we noticed that we have/had been robbed"
which should it be? past perfect (cause the robbery took place BEFORE they entered the flat)
or present perfect (cause technically speaking - they still are robbed)?

thanks for Your advise,
przemek.
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Hi,

1) i have a problem with a sentence like that:
"After entering the flat, we noticed that somebody had broken in." Fine
could it be:
"After entering the flat, we've noteiced that sb had broken in." ? No.

if not - why not?''
'We have noticed' places the time as 'the present'. The Past Perfect does not fit with this 'present time' viewpoint.

2) another thing:
"After entering the flat, we noticed that we have/had been robbed"
which should it be? past perfect (cause the robbery took place BEFORE they entered the flat) Yes


or present perfect (cause technically speaking - they still are robbed)? When you say 'we have been robbed', the focus is on it as an active event, rather than a static description. If this all took place yesterday, you could use Present Perfect because you are still feeling the result of the robbery. But if you are describing an event from 30 years ago, Present Perfect is not appropriate.

Best wishes, Clive
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thanks. that was very helpful.
1) i have a problem with a sentence like that:
"After entering the flat, we noticed that somebody had broken in." Fine
could it be:
"After entering the flat, we've noteiced that sb had broken in." ? No.

The only difference between the two sentence is the typo '' noteiced ''.

Clive, did you say no for the typo?

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i have a problem with a sentence like that: No
I have a problem with a sentence like that: Yes


Hi,

1) i have a problem with a sentence like that:
"After entering the flat, we noticed that somebody had broken in."
Fine
could it be:
"After entering the flat, we've noteiced that sb had broken in." ? No.

The only difference between the two sentence is the typo '' noteiced ''. No, #2 uses present perfect (we've).

Clive, did you say no for the typo? I didn't notice it. I was commenting on the use of the Present Perfect and Past Perfect together, which is not good here.


Best wishes, Clive
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So you didn't notice the typo and I didn't notice the past perfect.