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Ali: I had had my lunch then washed my hands in the canteen this morning.
Ali:I had my lunch then washed my hands in the canteen this morning.
I think the first one is just the right one.
Because I used past perfect for the action that happened before a past tense action.
This is a rule we have learnt.
Action happened before an action which is past tense we should use past perfect tense.
But I think the second one sounds more natural.
Many Thanks in Advance.
Victory Ong
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Vctory Ong,

Adding to Clive's comments, here is how I would approach past perfect. Natural English should not be bound by the confines of the grammar rules.

By that, I mean if we can communicate an idea in an uncomplicated manner without involing a complex tense and structure, by all means use it. Past perfect is like a power tool, it can help us to describe past events more affectively when using it correctly in the proper context. Conversely, it may cause the opposite effects.

She baked the cake after she had read the recipe. Alternatively, We can say:

After having read the recipe, she baked a cake.

After reading the recipe, she baked a cake.

When events happened in recent past time, we may use simple past tense.

Past perfect should be used when the context requires such need which usually involves completed events reaching further back in time i.e.

I had never seen such a beautiful beach before I went to Kauai

I had lived in London and Paris for several years before I came to the US.

Hope that helps...
Hi. What is the difference?

Your sentence:

After having read the recipe, she baked a cake.

And this:

Having read the recipe, she baked a cake.
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AnonymousHi. What is the difference?
Your sentence:

#1 After having read the recipe, she baked a cake.

And this:

#2 Having read the recipe, she baked a cake
In sentence #1, having read the recipe is a gerund phrase (grammatically a noun phrase), the object of the preposition after.

In sentence #2, having read the recipe is a present participial phrase, an adjective modifying the subject, "she".

There is no difference in meaning.
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Thanks,
However, I still don't very understand that when should we use past perfect tense when there is a sequencing word in our sentence and shouldn't we use past perfect tense when there is a sequencing word in our sentence.

Could anybody give a sentence with sequecing words but must use past perfect tense , a sentence with a sequencing word but can use either past perfect or past tense, and also a sentence with a sequencing word but must use past tense.

According to Clive this sentence "After she had read the recipe, she baked the cake?" can use past perfect or past tense. It mean that I can say "After she read the recipe, she baked the cake?".
Does it misread this comments?

Many Thanks in Advance
Sorry, Please don't see the above post!I type somthing wrong there.
I has rewritten it already.

Thanks,
However, I still don't very understand that when should we use past perfect tense when there is a sequencing word in our sentence and shouldn't we use past perfect tense when there is a sequencing word in our sentence.

Could anybody give a sentence with sequecing words but must use past perfect tense , a sentence with a sequencing word but can use either past perfect or past tense, and also a sentence with a sequencing word butmust use past tense.

According to Clive this sentence "After she had read the recipe, she baked the cake?" can use past perfect or past tense. It mean that I can say "After she read the recipe, she baked the cake?".
Does it misread this comments?

Many Thanks in Advance
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Here is my conclusion after reading all this post, Could anybody correct me?

The first one is more common but Which do you think it is the better one?
(1)After she read the recipe, she baked the cake.
(2)After she had read the recipe, she baked the cake.

Can I understand past perfect tense in this way?
After she had read the recipe, she baked the cake.=After she had already read the recipe, she baked the cake.

Past perfect is just a tool to express the sequece and complement like the word "already".
So it's alternative when the sequence of something is clear.

I woke up and went to a toilet.
she read the recipe and baked the cake.
(To these sentence, I can use both past perfect and past tense, Because everyone knows that we should wake up fisrt before we go to a toilet(everyone knows the squence).everyone knows that the action of reading a recipe must happen before baking the cake. But using past perfect can emphase the sequece. But it sound unnatural to use past perfect in this type of sentence.

Every sentence with sequencing word can use both past tense and past perfect tense, but using past perfect tense more natural and more common. So it's better to use past tense in the sentence with sequencing word.

She kicked him then gave him a punch.
the sequencing is too clear, although we can use past perfect tense, but it's better to use past tense because it's more common and using past perfect tense seem to be a redundant emphasis.

She kicked him and gave him a punch.
Although there isn't any sequencing word, but sequence is not important.
So we can just use past tense.
Same with the last sentence, using past perfect tense seem to be a redundant emphasis.

When a police ask us to tell him the whole fight?
We should say "She had kicked then gave him a punch"

Because the sequence is important here

Many Thanks in Advance
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