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Do the pro-Arab-pro-Americans get much press, I wonder. Can a ... not anti-Semitic at the same time? Some might say no.

When did the Arabs stop being Semites?

Technically, you have a good point. Perhaps I should have written anti-Jew; I wrote the other because it is a more familiar term to me and, I thought, generally understood not to include people of the Arab world.

Charles Riggs
Email address: chriggs>at>eircom>dot>net
Do the pro-Arab-pro-Americans get much press, I wonder. Can a ... not anti-Semitic at the same time? Some might say no.

I'm pro-American, but anti-America (where America abroad = American foreign policy). I'm also pro-Palestine, but I'm not anti-Semitic. How? Because I'm pro-Israeli but anti-Israel (where Israel = Israel's treatment of Palestine and Palestinians). Simplistic, I know, but clear enough?

Clear enough and reasonable enough.

Charles Riggs
Email address: chriggs>at>eircom>dot>net
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Thus spake Charles Riggs:

A recent survey indicated that the majority of Brits are ... two states, you'd be complaining just as loudly. Or louder.

I don't believe I was complaining at all.

I see. The purpose, then, of your post was to congratulate Mr Bush and Mr Blair on getting together, like reasonable men in a volatile world, for a visit and a talk.
The inclusion in your post of the following made that somewhat unclear:
'Dear President Bush,
I'm sure you'll be having a nice little tea party with your fellow war criminal, Tony Blair. Please wash the cucumber sandwiches down with a glass of blood, with my compliments.

Harold Pinter
Playwright
==
But then, I've always enjoyed Pinter's work.'
Wonderfully well-thought-out words by your man. Thank you for sharing.

Charles Riggs
Email address: chriggs>at>eircom>dot>net
I'm pro-American, but anti-America (where America abroad = American foreign ... of Palestine and Palestinians). Simplistic, I know, but clear enough?

Yes, as clear as concrete and the smoke after a suicide bomber's terrorist attack.

Which differs how, from the concrete and smoke after an Israeli gunship's attack on an apartment building? Innocents dead in both cases. With hindsight, of course, I should have added that I am pro-Palestinian but anti-Palestine (where Palestine = Hamas/Islamic Jihad), and con any other terrorist organisation. But scarcely worth stating the bleeding obvious, is it?
Edward

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(Email Removed) (Edward) wrote on 21 Nov 2003:
Which differs how, from the concrete and smoke after an Israeli gunship's attack on an apartment building? Innocents dead in ... (where Palestine = Hamas/Islamic Jihad), and con any other terrorist organisation. But scarcely worth stating the bleeding obvious, is it?

I won't get involved in any political discussion of the Israeli- Palestinian conflict. I find debates with morally superior people quite depressing; it's too easy for you angels to win.

Angels: "All we are asking is give peace a chance" and "All you need is love".
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Thus spake Charles Riggs:
Thus spake Charles Riggs: I don't believe I was complaining at all.

I see. The purpose, then, of your post was to congratulate Mr Bush and Mr Blair on getting together, like reasonable men in a volatile world, for a visit and a talk.

No, the purpose of my post was to alert people to the existence of the four pages of letters from people of every possible political colour. Included are letters from ***-kissing Tories, letters from bleeding-heart liberals, and letters from people who haven't taken the task seriously (it's not like Bush is going to/ can read them, anyway).
The inclusion in your post of the following made that somewhat unclear: 'Dear President Bush, I'm sure you'll be having ... Pinter Playwright == But then, I've always enjoyed Pinter's work.' Wonderfully well-thought-out words by your man. Thank you for sharing.

Again, my words there are not complaint. Pinter's words were, I thought, very well put together. I have yet to see the same kind of eloquence from a Bushee.

Simon R. Hughes
On 21 Nov 2003 08:51:56 GMT, CyberCypher
I won't get involved in any political discussion of the Israeli- Palestinian conflict. I find debates with morally superior people quite depressing; it's too easy for you angels to win.

How could you come across more morally superior than that?
'Dear President Bush, I'm sure you'll be having a nice ... Wonderfully well-thought-out words by your man. Thank you for sharing.

Again, my words there are not complaint. Pinter's words were, I thought, very well put together. I have yet to see the same kind of eloquence from a Bushee.

The usage of "eloquence" in this context is square-peggish. Eloquence is 1 : discourse marked by force and persuasiveness; also : the art or power of using such discourse 2 : the quality of forceful or persuasive expressiveness.
There is nothing forceful or persuasive about Pinter's words.

The definition of "eloquent", however, is 1 : marked by forceful and fluent expression

2 : vividly or movingly expressive or revealing

Pinter's words might fit here as vividly expressive.

I've never really thought about these two words before. I've always assumed that "eloquence" is a form of "eloquent". This doesn't appear to be true.
Based on the two definitions, I'd have to write "I have yet to see a Bushee write as eloquently as this." (Although I wouldn't say that)

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Which differs how, from the concrete and smoke after an ... organisation. But scarcely worth stating the bleeding obvious, is it?

I won't get involved in any political discussion of the Israeli- Palestinian conflict. I find debates with morally superior people quite depressing; it's too easy for you angels to win.

O but Cyber my dear old thing, you did get involved with your morally superior "Yes, as clear as concrete and the smoke after a suicide bomber's
terrorist attack." Rather chickenshit to drop that in and then run away saying "I don't want to play with the morally superior", non? BTW, in no way do I think of myself as morally superior to you, notwithstanding what I take to be your position on this matter. Our views differ on an extremely complex political and emotional problem. As someone said of the Northern Ireland situation a few years ago, "if you're not confused, you don't understand the problem."

Edward

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