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Ah, killfiling. The last resort of the loser.

And the first resort of the discriminating.

Since "to discriminate" has at least four different meanings, it is to be avoided by careful writers and self-employed editors, unless the context clearly indicates which specific meaning is meant.

1: to be perceptive
2: to be selective
3: to be distinctive
4: to be discriminatory (marked by or showing prejudice; biased; to make a difference in treatment or favor on a basis other than individual merit).
As a long-time resident in Mrs. Donovan's flaunted killfile, the undersigned AUEer mentioned by her only as a nameless "quarter," etc., knows that she meant sense 4, being discriminatory. Mrs. Donovan discriminates against anyone who has the courage to stand up to Big Mama, AUE's famed "Queen Cobra."

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Ah, killfiling. The last resort of the loser.

Would you like to expound on that, or merely let it go as Cosmic Wisdom?

I thought that "Cyber" and I had been having a fairly robust exchange of views (see this thread passim), and I felt that I had, if not the upper hand, then at least some claim to the moral uplands. However, he just upped and left like a sulky brat, akin to the child who concedes a goal at football and takes his ball away. This, of course, makes it appear as if I am deeply miffed, whereas I merely have a mild case of the irrits. I have never killfiled anyone (it's kinda hard when Google Groups is your newsreader!) but I wouldn't anyway, and I certainly wouldn't announce it for fear of appearing, like Cyber, petulant.
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On 24 Nov 2003, Edward wrote snip That depends on ... unproclaimed kill-filing is just a useful administrative tool in Usenet.

How does making such an announcement differ from demonstrably walking away from a person who often tries to engage you in unpleasant conversations?

It doesn't, but I don't do that, either (or, at least, I try not to).
I say it gets the message across more effectively than walking way in a subtle manner, making it less likely the objectionable person will hassle you in the future.

Depends why and how it's done: there can certainly be merit in an announcement, but flamboyant "plonks" are usually more in the nature of hissy-fits than measured announcements.
Each to his own approach, but taking a more aggressive approach trying to push the message across tends to upset me at least as much as it does the recipient.
I try to make it a priority to avoid making *me* upset, and since I find non-confrontation a much more calming approach, I try to avoid confrontation. (Doesn't always succeed, of course, but I hate it when I get sucked into confrontation.)

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Harvey Van Sickle (Email Removed) wrote on 25 Nov 2003:
On 25 Nov 2003, Charles Riggs wrote

Why do you think it's "lame"?

Please define a "flamboyant 'plonk'" and a less-than-flamboyant "plonk". I've seen the latter but it has never been my privilege to see one of the former, at least not that I am aware of.

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Depends why and how it's done: there can certainly be ... usually more in the nature of hissy-fits than measured announcements.

Please define a "flamboyant 'plonk'" and a less-than-flamboyant "plonk". I've seen the latter but it has never been my privilege to see one of the former, at least not that I am aware of.

Sure:
A flamboyant plonk:
**PLONK**
A less-flamboyant plonk:
I see no point in continuing this or any other discussion.

That sort of thing.

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On 25 Nov 2003, CyberCypher wrote

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Please define a "flamboyant 'plonk'" and a less-than-flamboyant "plonk". I've ... the former, at least not that I am aware of.

Sure: A flamboyant plonk: **PLONK** A less-flamboyant plonk: I see no point in continuing this or any other discussion. That sort of thing.

Is your second example a true plonk without the addition of "with you"? I thought a plonk was usually directed at a specific individual.

Laura, who is not a plonker
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On 25 Nov 2003, CyberCypher wrote snip Sure: A flamboyant ... or any other discussion. That sort of thing.

Is your second example a true plonk without the addition of "with you"? I thought a plonk was usually directed at a specific individual.

In the context of closing down a deteriorating exchange, I'd have thought that it was clearly implied which is why I'd consider it less flamboyant.
(That is, the shut-down is again, in context clear but not screamed out along the lines of "Hey, I'm talkin' to you I'm plonking you, you know. You plonking plonker".)

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} As a long-time resident in Mrs. Donovan's flaunted killfile, the } undersigned AUEer mentioned by her only as a nameless "quarter," etc., } knows that she meant sense 4, being discriminatory. Mrs. Donovan } discriminates against anyone who has the courage to stand up to Big } Mama, AUE's famed "Queen Cobra."
Anyone?

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... } As a long-time resident in Mrs. Donovan's flaunted killfile, the } undersigned AUEer mentioned by her only as ... } discriminates against anyone who has the courage to stand up to Big } Mama, AUE's famed "Queen Cobra." Anyone?

Yes.

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