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Oh, no. As a guess, I'd say that Florida is ... ranking of Jews or Orthodox Jews. There's my preconceived notion.

Wouldn't the propensity of Orthodox Jews to criminality yield to a Google on the population of Israeli Prisons?

I would think that's a different kettle of gefilte fish.
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Even if we assume that only half are retirees (hey, Florida's a nice place to live)

It is one of life's mysteries why so many people choose a hot, humid climate to retire to. Here in ... choose, I'm sure I'd opt for somewhere like Southern California. I like warm, but it's got to be dry warm.

Arizona, mostly desert and very dry, is probably the most popular retirement location in the US, Florida aside. I don't know the statistics, but I'd wager that they skew almost as much as Florida's. Southern California is so enormous (about 15 million population, depending on where you draw the lines) that even large absolute numbers of retirees would not make much of a percentage dent.
As we near retirement, Mrs. Bob and I have been discussing our options. Our current plan is to live most of the time in the primary residence here in Greater Laurel, spend much of the summer at the New Jersey shore, and take short stays in Florida each winter. The Lieblich Family Exchequer will of course have to be taken into account when the time comes.
We are fully agreed, however, that we are NOT going to move permanently to Florida.

Bob Lieblich
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} I read an article in today's newspaper and found myself struggling for } a word to describe my reaction.
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} The article was about Florida prisons now offering kosher meals for } Jewish prisoners. Florida now spends $2.49 per day per prisoner for } regular meals. Kosher meals will cost $12.51 per day per prisoner. } This will require an addition to the budget of $1.9 million. It's not } stated, but my calculations say that this means they are estimating } that there are about 519 Jewish prisoners in Florida jails that } require kosher meals.
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} What would be the word - the opposite of prejudice as defined above - } that describes a preconceived opinion that is not adverse and not } irrationally hostile?
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"Mistaken" would be my guess in this case. If I were a prisoner in Florida and I found out that kosher meals were available, I'd be first on line to request them. That's the advice I've heard for airline miles (though I won't be flying anymore with this homeland-security crap going on). Are you sure they are only for Jewish prisoners? Do you mean they won't allow me to have them because I'm not Jewish? You mean they can't get a break on the price once the word is out that they're available?

R. J. Valentine
} I read an article in today's newspaper and found myself struggling for } a word to describe my reaction. ... not Jewish? You mean they can't get a break on the price once the word is out that they're available?

You want knowledge or assumptions? If you want a knowledgable answer, don't ask me on this subject. I assume there's going to be some sort of documentation required for the high-priced spread. A black eye-patch or something.
If I add "chocolate" after "everything", the sentence becomes meaningful to me. Given the choice between chocolate and not-chocolate versions of anything, I would be pretty blindly and unthinkingly biased in favor of chocolate if I prefered the chocolate to the non-chocolate version of everything. Sometimes I choose coffee or strawberry or black raspberry ice cream instead of chocolate ice cream, but usually I choose chocolate.
Some foods leave me completely "unbiased".

I didn't mean to imply that having a bias about one food, for example, meant that one would have a bias about all foods. Some foods cannot be reasonable options to others, eg, "Would you prefer a chocolate hot fudge sundae or a southern fried chicken hot fudge sundae?" would be an absurd question, IMHO.
I have some preferences, even strong likes or dislikes of literary styles, or schools of thought, musical genres etc, while others keep me very 'objective'. In other words, I'm not biased against everything.

If you would always or almost always choose one literary style or school of thought over another, then you would have to be called strongly biased against those you do not prefer. It's a matter of degree, I think.
I can be very objective about things I don't care.

This is a contradiction. If you don't care for or about something, then you are negatively disposed toward it. That is a bias, as is any preference.

I think that here is a perfect context for the punchline of that wonderful joke:
"We have already established what you are, Now we're merely haggling about price".
If you have a bias, you are biased. We are now merely discussing the intensity of your bias.
You can say without any problem that you aren't biased for or against things you know nothing about. While I have a very strong preference or bias for chocolate cake, cookies, and ice cream, I do recognize that there are some brands and types of chocolate cake, cookies, and ice cream that I would not waste my money on. My chocolate bias is not blind.
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Oh, no. As a guess, I'd say that Florida is ... ranking of Jews or Orthodox Jews. There's my preconceived notion.

Wouldn't the propensity of Orthodox Jews to criminality yield to a Google on the population of Israeli Prisons?

If you factored in the efficiency of the Israeli police, Israelis' views on imprisonment as an effective means of dealing with crime, the prison budget over the years, the average length of sentences in Israel compared with other nations, and, undoubtedly, a few more things I can't think of, yes. Google has few real answers, contrary to the beliefs of some, not you, prominent in this newsgroup.
Charles Riggs
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(1) I'm not sure if only an Orthodox Jew keeps kosher. For all I know, a Reformed or even a ... on this assumption, discount the statement and consider the question of determining the correct word with the sentence somehow rewritten.

Obaue: "Reform Jew".
I know you're not interested, but Orthodox and most or all Conservative and Reconstructionist Jews keep kosher. Pretty much all Reform and secular or Secular Jews don't.

Jerry Friedman
I know you're not interested, but Orthodox and most or all Conservative and Reconstructionist Jews keep kosher. Pretty much all Reform and secular or Secular Jews don't.

I'm ashamed to say that, until yesterday, I thought that business about Orthodox Jews having to have sex through a hole in a sheet was gospel truth (as it were).
I discovered my error because I was considering posting something about the incidence of Orthodox criminality so did a bit of googling. I should have predicted the sort of sites that would crop up. Post abandoned. (But ... but ... heroin-smuggling? Nice lads from Finchley?)

Anyway, this very good-natured and sensible FAQ also cropped up:

http://www.pinenet.com/~rooster/hasid2.html

Mickwick
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(1) I'm not sure if only an Orthodox Jew keeps ... of determining the correct word with the sentence somehow rewritten.

Obaue: "Reform Jew". I know you're not interested, but Orthodox and most or all Conservative and Reconstructionist Jews keep kosher. Pretty much all Reform and secular or Secular Jews don't.

I know about the others, but what is a Reconstructionist? Do we have them in Europe?

Don Aitken
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