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Out of curiosity, what is it about your pronuncaition of "*** moan" or "hormone" that makes the pun not work?

As a teenager in Brooklyn, I had only heard the word *** pronounced as two syllables, "who-er" and the slight ... pronunciation is used anywhere else, but it may have evolved into the 'ho' that got Don into so much trouble.

That's also the usual Irish pronunciation, I think, which may well be where Brooklyn got it from.

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Out of curiosity, what is it about your pronuncaition of "*** moan" or "hormone" that makes the pun not work?

Just a guess: a likely pronunciation by someone who has read, but not heard, the word would by "wore", using the sound of "wh" in "where", "when", and similar words.

Spot on! That's exactly how I thought it was pronounced. And the reason is the one you give Emotion: wink
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Just a guess: a likely pronunciation by someone who has ... the sound of "wh" in "where", "when", and similar words.

Spot on! That's exactly how I thought it was pronounced. And the reason is the one you give Emotion: wink

Thanks. I was curious because I could come up with several possibilities that would all make the pun problematic. "Hoor"; "hoe-ah"; "hoe-er"; "whor", with the -wh- pronounced strongly as in "whistle"; and "wor" with the -h- not pronounced, as in "why " or "when", which I grew up hearing as "wy" and "wen".

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Spot on! That's exactly how I thought it was pronounced. And the reason is the one you give Emotion: wink

Thanks. I was curious because I could come up with several possibilities that would all make the pun problematic. "Hoor"; ... with the -h- not pronounced, as in "why " or "when", which I grew up hearing as "wy" and "wen".

FWIW, the frequency with which Dorothy Parker's line "You can lead a *** to culture but you can't make her think" is quoted might suggest that the "hore" pronunciation is the most widespread, with the others ("hoo-er", "hoor") as minority versions.

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I learned it as "You can't hear a vita min". (With slightly different setup, of course.)

Sigh. "You can't make a vita min".

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