Hi Teachers,

According to the sentence, do you agree with the explanation in the note, or it has to be changed?

Robert has arrived early at work every week.

Note: Because of the tense and the frequency expression, the sentence expresses what Robert has done in the past and the frequency.

Thanks in advance
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Does you question refer only to the explanation in the note or also to the corectness of the statement itself?
Hi Englishmann,

Thank you very much for your reply. Both of them according to the given sentence.

TS
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Using present perfect together with an adverb of frequency requires sometimes at least an imaginary ( if not a real) " so far", "until now" at the end of the sentence.

Present Perfect suggests here that the process is not complete and more future actions are possible.

So,

The sentence would read better "Robert has arrived early at work every week until now"

Note : Given the presence of present perfect accompanied by a frequency adverb, the sentence expresses what Robert has done repeatedly in the past and the possibility of repeating in the future to a certain extent ( with a different result, maybe) the mentioned action.

Present perfect is far more complex than that but FOR NOW it`s enough. I think. Emotion: embarrassed
Hi Englishmann,

That's quite an impeccable explanation, though I have a few questions.
EnglishmannUsing present perfect together with an adverb of frequency requires sometimes at least an imaginary ( if not a real) " so far", "until now" at the end of the sentence.
You are telling me that the sentence will sound a lot better if at the end I have 'so far' or 'until now'.
Since this is for beginners students, what about putting it between parentheses at the end of the sentence?

a) Robert has arrived early at work every week (until now). Where's the adverb of frequency?

b) Robert has shaved in the bathroom every day (until now). Where's the adverb of requency?

c) Robert has always taken a shower inmmediately after (until now).

For me I only have two expressions of frequency 'every week' and 'every day'.

This rule 'so far' and 'until now' applies equally when there's an expression of frequency and an adverb of frequency?

EnglishmannPresent Perfect suggests here that the process is not complete and more future actions are possible.
I have always thought that this is only possible with present time markers at the end of the sentence: today, this morning this week, etc.

Have I always been mistaken about this idea?Emotion: sad

As I've said before the explanation is very precise. But to begginers it's to dense. Will you tell me one with easier words?

I would really appreciate it.
EnglishmannPresent perfect is far more complex than that but FOR NOW it`s enough.
I know. if you don't mind, I'll go on with more in the next posts.

Thank you so much for reading me.Emotion: smile

TS

You`re welcome. Emotion: smile

Since this is for beginners students, what about putting it between parentheses at the end of the sentence?
Sure you may.

For me I only have two expressions of frequency 'every week' and 'every day'.
This rule 'so far' and 'until now' applies equally when there's an expression of frequency and an adverb of frequency?

It`s not really a rule but a more accurate way to express thoroughly using Present Perfect.

I have always thought that this is only possible with present time markers at the end of the sentence: today, this morning this week, etc.
Have I always been mistaken about this idea?

No, you have not been mistaken, but that is only limiting your construction possibilities. Let`s take for instance the following :

"The soldiers have assaulted the fortress three times" - it is expected of them to do that again, regardless of the way the sentence ends ( with or without until now, so far)

"We have discussed this issue many times but to no avail" - the same as above. (More discussions are expected)

As I've said before the explanation is very precise. But to beginners it's to dense. Will you tell me one with easier words?
I would really appreciate it.

The "secret" is not to forget that Present Perfect tense is linked in one way or another to present ( hence it`s name, obviously Emotion: smile ) and even to the future – the possibility that the action repeats itself in the future. It`s a mind triggered mechanism, merely mentioning “have+vb 3rd form” automatically the idea of something recently /(never) done until now is induced.

We can talk some more if you still want to enlarge upon this tense.
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Emotion: wink Hi Englishmann,

Sorry I haven't replied to you before. I was away, in fact I am every Thursday. I teach outside Barcelona only this day.

We can talk some more if you still want to enlarge upon this tense.

Sure I would like to enlarge this tense and have a little bit of discussion if you don't mind.

Let me tell you how I explain the different uses for the Present Perfect to my students, and see if corrections need to be done according to you. There are not all the possibilties but some of them.

Use 1

The present perfect can express actions or situations that occurred at an indefinite time in the past.

Example: Sharon has studied Spanish.

Use 2

The present perfect can also express the frequency with which the actions or situations have occurred at indefinite times in the past.

This is only possible with a frequency expression at the end of the sentence or a frequency adverb in the sentence.

Frequency Expressions

Every day / night / week /month / year.

Frequency Adverbs

Always, often, recently, repeatedly, frequently, sometimes, rarely, seldom, etc.

Examples: Sharon has studied Spanish every week. Sharon has sometimes studied Spanish.

Use 3

The present perfect with a present time marker suggests that more actions or situations are possible during the time mentioned in the sentence.

Present Time Markers

Today, this morning, this afternoon, tonight, this weekend, this week, this month, this year, until today, etc.

This is only possible, if the period of time in the time marker is not finished at the time of speakind or writing.

Example: Sharon has studied a lot of Spanish this week.

Use 4

Finally, it can also express actions or situations that commenced in the past and continue into the present.

This is only possible with the prepositions since or for and a definite time marker after these prepositions.

Examples: Sharon has studied Spanish since 2008. Sharon has studied Spanish for a few years.

I also have a great passion for the English language. But I'm a self made teacher. Let me tell you that I have written a manuscript for beginners, it has about 800 pages, for about 18 years and I still learn every single day. I guess I'll always do it and I'm really enthusiatic about that.

Any corrections are more than welcome. Thanks a lot (muchísimas gracias) once again for your time.

TS
Hi Englishmann,

What about this definition for the present perfect in general? Can it be shorter or better?

The present perfect is used to express a past time that is related to the present in one way or another. Sometimes the past action is very recent, or it is still continuing at the present moment, or we don't know exactly when the past action happened. We only know that it happened sometime before now.

Thank you.
Sorry for not having aswered swifter, I have been detailing my car - given the beautiful weather outside. Emotion: embarrassed

The complete list of Present Perfect usages may be this one :

- actions that never happened until now.) (I have never seen such a glorious day for car detailing)

- experience in the past. ( I have detailed my car many times)

- unspecified time before present days.( I have never left my car in the sun for a long time)

- changes over a period of time ( my car has not changed since I bought it )

- uncompleted action still expected ( my car hasn`t been fully detailed yet )

- actions in different periods of time ( already mentioned that example )

- past actions very close to present with obvious results ( I have just detailed my car and the result is great)

- actions began in the past and continued in the present ( -using non-continuous verbs : I have had a headache for some time now)

- accomplishments ( I have learn how to detail my car)

And this is it, I believe I covered all the situations for Present Perfect.

Emotion: smile

PS. May I contact you in the future for some clarifications as regards Spanish language? There are some issues I`m not familiar with.
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