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I was wondering, why is it that so many foreign singers can sing in a perfect North American accent yet have a thick accent when it comesto holding a conversation?

We non-native speakers (of any language) consciously want to loose our accent, but subconsciously we fight to keep it as part of our identity. Whenever we try to speak like the natives our subconscious mind tell us that we are phony, we are pretending, or we are faking.

Now, acting or singing is in a way pretending, or faking, so our subconscious mind allows us to enjoy the performance. But when it's serious business, like public speaking, or explaining something technical, our respective accents are back. The more serious the talk, the thicker the accent.
Whenever I gossip and try to impersonate the gossipee, I loose my accent almost entirely, but when I try to rationalize the gosipee's behaviour and defend it, my accent is back.
Women tend to loose their accent faster than men because they are not as much afraid as men are of being ridiculous by parroting the natives.
I was wondering, why is it that so many foreign singers can sing in a perfect North American accent yet have a thick accent when it comes to holding a conversation?

For the same reason Jim Nabors talks like a hick and sings like Pavaroti (well, sort of). Singers train their vocal equipment to make specific sounds whereas one's native speech patterns are picked up early in life by accident of environment.
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No, see, that's "Chuck Yeager Standard" (CYS). Not quite that Southern, actually. Closer to TCE, I believe.

Sorry, suh. Yor post about good ole Chuck hadn arrahvd. There's a social thing of interest here: the Empire reassurance-voice ... seems to be on permanent secondment to the BBC, does a fine Australian radio announcer: reminds me of my father.)

As David has recently pointed out elsethread, Kerry is Canadian.

If one were to plot the course of aue threads, I wonder if one might find some interesting convergences. Or is the phenomenon I'm observing simply a reflection of the average age of posters which leads to a tendency to repetition?

Laura
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Women tend to loose their accent

Once could have been a typo; twice must, I'm afraid, be OY'd in this here part of Usenetland.

Cheers, Harvey
Canada for 30 years; S England since 1982.
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Otherwise it's rare for popular songsters to allude to theirorigins. ... the Scottishtwins whom I saw yesterday on a nostalgia programme.

Peter Gabriel always sounds very "Home Counties" so much so that afriend of mine once remarked that this sounded unnatural and that rock musicshould always be sung in an American accent (no matter how *cod).

I agree about PG, though he sounds good to me. I've been listening to a band called "Athlete" recently - the music is ok, but the lead singer's estuarine is too, too much.
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Sorry, suh. Yor post about good ole Chuck hadn arrahvd. ... a fine Australian radio announcer: reminds me of my father.)

As David has recently pointed out elsethread, Kerry is Canadian. If one were to plot the course of aue threads, ... the phenomenon I'm observing simply a reflection of the average age of posters which leads to a tendency to repetition?

As I've said before, Usenet has 200 posters and 200 topics, no wonder the threads converge!

The point of education is to correct ignorance. It cannot deal with stupidity. (Mortimer Hebblethwaite, uk.misc)
As David has recently pointed out elsethread, Kerry is Canadian. ... age of posters which leads to a tendency to repetition?

As I've said before, Usenet has 200 posters and 200 topics, no wonder the threads converge!

Yes, but how many of those 200 are prone to middle-aged forgetfulness and post repeatedly about the same things, without realising it?

Something reminded me earlier this morning of a computer magazine that I bought in pre-browser days that mapped the whole of the internet in a pull-out double page spread. It may be up in our loft but I've already sent my husband searching up there this week and I don't think I can persuade him to go up again.

Laura
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Consider that conversations cannot be rehearsed in the way concerts are. There is no printed score for a conversation.

I have heard that the eminent linguist Karl Jespersen, when lecturing, would give exquisite renditions of how (say) the pronunciation of a certain vowel shifted as one traveled thru the southeastern U.S., but discuss the matter in a thick Danish accent.

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As I've said before, Usenet has 200 posters and 200 topics, no wonder the threads converge!

Yes, but how many of those 200 are prone to middle-aged forgetfulness and post repeatedly about the same things, without realising it?

Me! Me! Me! Proceeding rapidly toward old-aged forgetfulness.
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