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a. I have suffered four cases of abdominal pain, one severe enough to send me into hospital.

Are the bolded words a reduced relative clause and reduced from this:

b. I have suffered four cases of abdominal pain, one of which was severe enough to send me into hospital.

Are these acceptable versions also?

Which is best?

c. I have suffered four cases of abdominal pain, one of them severe enough to send me into hospital.

d. I have suffered four cases of abdominal pain, one so severe that is sent me into hospital.

Thank you
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Hi,

Isn't this like your other thread that I contributed to a short while ago???

Clive
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Hi,

yes it is. But I don't feel this one is reduced from the same original. I think this one is a reduced relative clause while the other one, as you said, is reduced from another main clause. Would you not agree?
Hi,

a. I have suffered four cases of abdominal pain, one severe enough to send me into hospital.

Are the bolded words a reduced relative clause and reduced from this:

b. I have suffered four cases of abdominal pain, one of which was severe enough to send me into hospital.

B is OK. But I still would state the underlying idea as

I have suffered four cases of abdominal pain. One of them was severe enough to send me into hospital.



Personally, let me add this.

I have trouble with this whole idea of 'that statement is reduced from this statement'. It sounds to me like the idea is 'the speaker was originally going to say this long version, but instead he decided to say this shorter version'.

Here are some of my thoughts.

- There are often many ways to reword a shorter statement into something longer.

- We are not inside the speaker's head. How can we guess what his original thoughts were?

- I don't think people's original thoughts tend to be in complex sentences. I know mine aren't.

- I'm not even sure my original thoughts are in words at all.

- When I do form a sentence, I don't seem to think of a long sentence and then think of ways I can shorten it. I just form a sentence and then say it.

Are these acceptable versions also? C is OK, and correct grammar. D is not correct grammar.

Which is best?

c. I have suffered four cases of abdominal pain, one of them severe enough to send me into hospital.

d. I have suffered four cases of abdominal pain, one so severe that is sent me into hospital.

Clive
ClivePersonally, let me add this.

I understand what you mean. I guess I just don't know what reduced sentences are grammatical. That is, how can one tell? Sometimes there are missing verbs, sometimes missing subjects, sometimes missing or different relative pronouns.
CliveC is OK, and correct grammar. D is not correct grammar
Sorry, there is a typo in d. It's mean to read:

d. I have suffered four cases of abdominal pain, one so severe that it sent me into hospital.
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Hi,

Such things are not easy to learn. Really, I'd say it's a matter of reading a lot of Engish and being patient.

Remember that you don't have to produce such statements. You just have to understand them, which I think you can do fairly well.

Clive