Diane Mott Davidson
I don't know why I torture myself by reading this lady's books, and I won't go into the many reasons I have for disliking them, but I'd like to know whether the stuff below is a genuine pondian difference, or whether it's just another of her idiosyncrasies:
"... unmolded salad. I mixed the gelatin into the boiling juice, added chilled juice, then folded in all the fruits."
Now, I'm not sure whether there is a non-AmE term for this dish - I think we just called it 'jelly with fruit in' when I was a kid - but I can't think of any way in which this could be included under the heading 'salad'.
(As I was quoting, I left the spelling of 'gelatine' as it was.)
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Diane Mott Davidson I don't know why I torture myself by reading this lady's books, and I won't go into ... a kid - but I can't think of any way in which this could be included under the heading 'salad'.

I can't tell why some distinctions are made in foods, either.

However, I can tell, sometimes, if there are individual servings. A "gelatin fruit salad" served individually, is frequently placed on lettuce. It may or may not have a dollop of mayonnaise. A "gelatin fruit (salad) dessert" would probably not have the lettuce or other "greens" garnish, and would be topped with whipped cream.
Timing of the serving is also key to identifying whether you are expected to consume a dessert or a salad. Of course, for the most part we say Jell-O, even if we suspect an off-brand or generic gelatin powder was used, or that the food was purchased ready-made in the supermarket.
Diane Mott Davidson I don't know why I torture myself ... in which this could be included under the heading 'salad'.

I can't tell why some distinctions are made in foods, either. However, I can tell, sometimes, if there are individual ... we suspect an off-brand or generic gelatin powder was used, or that the food was purchased ready-made in the supermarket.

"Fruit salad" is a perfectly familiar term to me. It is a dessert, consisting of mixed fruit, and does not include lettuce, mayonaise, or any such thing, and has no obvious relation to foods which do.

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Don Aitken filted:
"Fruit salad" is a perfectly familiar term to me. It is a dessert, consisting of mixed fruit, and does not include lettuce, mayonaise, or any such thing, and has no obvious relation to foods which do.

They do make this here...some people, for reasons known only to God, put grated carrots in it..r
Don Aitken filted: They do make this here...some people, for reasons known only to God, put grated carrots in it..r

I think of this as a Midwest thing: A molded mass of Jell-o (usually ring-shaped) of a color not found in nature (usually some sort of purple or green), with fruit and chopped walnuts and shredded cabbage and carrots and Kraft Miniature Marshmallows in it, and big dollops of Miracle Whip Salad Dressing on top, or in the center of the ring. All of it on flattened leaves of taste-free iceberg lettuce.
Your mom brings it to the potluck supper in the church basement.

\\P. Schultz
Don Aitken filted:

"Fruit salad" is a perfectly familiar term to me. It ... thing, and has no obvious relation to foods which do.

But there is the Waldorf Salad:
Waldorf Salad
This is a basic recipe for Waldorf Salad with apples and walnuts.

* 2 cups coarsely chopped apples, about 2 medium apples * 1 cup chopped celery
* 1/2 cup mayonnaise, or to taste
* 1/3 cup coarsely chopped walnuts
* mixed salad greens or lettuce
Waldorf Salad. Toss all ingredients together in a serving bowl. Serve Waldorf salad on mixed salad greens. This waldorf salad serves 4.

More Waldorf Salad
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They do make this here...some people, for reasons known only to God, put grated carrots in it..r

I don't mind the carrots. It's the shredded coconut that makes me gag.

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Diane Mott Davidson I don't know why I torture myself by reading this lady's books, and I won't go into ... could be included under the heading 'salad'. (As I was quoting, I left the spelling of 'gelatine' as it was.)

There is a chain of cafeterias here that is very popular. They used to be called Morrison's, but now have another name that escapes me.

When you push your tray along the rails the first section that comes up is the salad section. Jello, or gelatine, salads are right in there with the leafy vegetable salads. They are quite popular. I don't think you'd find much support in not finding them a salad with the Morrison's crowd.
How about a Waldorf salad? Are apples and nuts and chopped celery in a mayonnaise base a salad? Carrots and raisins? Where *is* Fontana?

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Diane Mott Davidson I don't know why I torture myself by reading this lady's books,

Most of us would refer to her as a woman, I believe. Why the antiquated term?
and I won't go into the many reasons I have for disliking them, but I'd like to know whether the ... a kid - but I can't think of any way in which this could be included under the heading 'salad'.

In Ireland and other parts of Europe it could easily be called a salad. I doubt if it would be in America. Why does that tiny detail bother you so? 'Torture' is a pretty strong term, wot wot?
(As I was quoting, I left the spelling of 'gelatine' as it was.)

Try Virginia Woolf the next time you want to be tortured. She'll do a thorough job of it, idiosyncratic as she is.

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I think of this as a Midwest thing: A molded mass of Jell-o (usually ring-shaped) of a color not found ... Dressing on top, or in the center of the ring. All of it on flattened leaves of taste-free iceberg lettuce.

Marshmallows inside and salad dressing outside, I am speechless.
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