It seems that if i pronounce the vowel as /eI/ i get corrected to /oU/, and if i pronounce it as /oU/ i get corrected to /eI/ (note - this isn't alt.usage.german, and I can't pronounce whatever sound it's supposed to be in german anyway) - what is it supposed to be pronounced as in english?
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It seems that if i pronounce the vowel as /eI/ i get corrected to /oU/, and if i pronounce it ... whatever sound it's supposed to be in german anyway) - what is it supposed to be pronounced as in english?

Obviously, until you open your mouth both vowels co-exist. Once you've opened your mouth, there's a 50% chance which one is right.
John Dean
Oxford
It seems that if i pronounce the vowel as /eI/ i get corrected to /oU/, and if i pronounce it ... whatever sound it's supposed to be in german anyway) - what is it supposed to be pronounced as in english?

MWC10 gives the German pronunciation first, and /eI/ second; it does not record /oU/.
I am usually in vociferous agreement with your sentiment that well-known foreign persons are entitled to English names with English phonetics, but I must admit that I waver when it comes to our sister language German. In contrast with (say) French, tradition seems to offer little guidance, and almost every attempt to assimilate the German ö, ü, and ch makes me uncomfortable, tho I do not in fact speak German. Is Mössbauer going to end up a moss farmer or a mess farmer? Shall the Bachs be leveled with the Boks? And what about poor Goethe? (My mother told me that Chicago had rashly named a street after him, and when she was young the streetcar conductors announced it as /goUi:Ti/.) I'm afraid there's nothing for it but to learn to raise your tongue.

Joe Fineman joe (Email Removed)
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It seems that if i pronounce the vowel as /eI/ i get corrected to /oU/, and if i pronounce it ... whatever sound it's supposed to be in german anyway) - what is it supposed to be pronounced as in english?

Jones/EPD15 has for "Schroedinger"
UK: 'SrV":dINR
US: 'SroUdINR or
'SrV"(r)dINR
In no case is the first vowel /eI/. The ASCII-IPA for the German sound is /W/.
It seems that if i pronounce the vowel as /eI/ i get corrected to /oU/, and if i pronounce it ... whatever sound it's supposed to be in german anyway) - what is it supposed to be pronounced as in english?

There's a sound file at m-w.com . To me the sound on the recording sounds similar to the "long oo" of "screw" or "moo" (which someone will probably say are different sounds to them.) As you say, that may not be the German sound.

Best Donna Richoux
Is Mössbauer going to end up a moss farmer or a mess farmer?

More of a mouse farmer, as word be pronounced by Inspector Clouseau.
Paul
In bocca al Lupo!
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It seems that if i pronounce the vowel as /eI/ ... what is it supposed to be pronounced as in english?

There's a sound file at m-w.com . To me the sound on the recording sounds similar to the "long oo" of "screw" or "moo" (which someone will probably say are different sounds to them.) As you say, that may not be the German sound.

The German sound is actually closer to the stressed vowels in (non-rhotic) "German word".
Meanwhile, I'm still trying to figure out what dark forces might lead anyone to want to pronounce it "ShrAYdinger".

Ross Howard
Is Mössbauer going to end up a moss farmer or a mess farmer?

More of a mouse farmer, as word be pronounced by Inspector Clouseau.

And of course that is also the Schroedinger vowel sound. Until I read Martin Ambuhl's message, I thought the subject line was a cryptic allusion to 'cat'. Woe.

Paul
In bocca al Lupo!
There's a sound file at m-w.com . To me the ... As you say, that may not be the German sound.

The German sound is actually closer to the stressed vowels in (non-rhotic) "German word". Meanwhile, I'm still trying to figure out what dark forces might lead anyone to want to pronounce it "ShrAYdinger".

How do you pronounce the name of Charlie Brown's piano-playing friend? Same argument, to me. In my growing up, I learned to say "Schroeder-schr/ei/der", but when I got to the Chicago area, I heard "Schr/oU/der". I have heard that some people, perhaps getting a touch closer to the German pronunciation say "Schr/oI/der". "Schr/'the word sound'/der" is very labor-intensive.

Pat
durkinpa at msn.com
Wisconsin
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