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This appears to be backwards logic. In other words, if you begin with the conclusion that the movie's sexist, the ... with the mere information that all the protagonists were male, and from that alone conclude that the film is sexist.

I think it's pretty absurd to say that's the only reason people think the film is sexist. There are a dozen of others which have been discussed in this thread already.
It's not the "mere information" that all of the protagonists are male. It's the outfits, the characterizations, the choices the characters make, and much, much more.
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I think it's pretty absurd to say that's the only reason people think the film is sexist.

It might be, but it doesn't matter because that's not what I said. I was responding to a post which consisted of only one sentence:

"Why did a movie with four protagonists have them all male?"

As if that seals the case.

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This appears to be backwards logic. In other words, if ... and from that alone conclude that the film is sexist.

I think it's pretty absurd to say that's the only reason people think the film is sexist. There are a ... of the protagonists are male. It's the outfits, the characterizations, the choices the characters make, and much, much more. -Ron

I don't see how anyone could say there aren't female protagonists in the movie. Has everyone commenting on his movie actually seen it? The prostitutes in Old Town completely kick ass. Bruce Willis saves a girl, she grows up and...
I'll leave it at that.
Although I think this depressing piece of nicely stylized posing is just more wannabe macho crap from Rodriguez and Tarantino, at least it's better than that shitfest called From Dusk to Dawn.

But not much.
I don't see how anyone could say there aren't female protagonists in the movie. Has everyone commenting on his movie actually seen it? The prostitutes in Old Town completely kick ass. Bruce Willis saves a girl, she grows up and...

Yes. The prostitutes are not protagonists. They're supporting characters in the Clive Owen character's story. This isn't even debatable.

The little girl (played as an adult by Jessica Alba) is a supporting character in the storyline for which Willis is the protagonist. Again, this is really not debatable.
-Ron
I don't see how anyone could say there aren't female ... ass. Bruce Willis saves a girl, she grows up and...

Yes. The prostitutes are not protagonists. They're supporting characters in the Clive Owen character's story. This isn't even debatable. The ... is a supporting character in the storyline for which Willis is the protagonist. Again, this is really not debatable. -Ron

You're right, it's not debatable. She's a protagonist. You seem to be under the impression there's just one in any story. And that POV doesn't apply to this horror fest.
Protagonist \***"***\, n. (Gr. prwtagonisth`s; prw^tos first + 'agonisth`s an actor, combatant, fr. 'agw`n a contest.)
One who takes the leading part in a drama; hence, one who takes lead in some great scene, enterprise, conflict, or the like.
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You're right, it's not debatable. She's a protagonist. You seem to be under the impression there's just one in any story. And that POV doesn't apply to this horror fest.

***. She doesn't in any way take on a leading role. She's a damsel in distress.
And, for that matter, so are the prostitutes.
Storytelling 101, skip.
You're right, it's not debatable. She's a protagonist. You seem ... story. And that POV doesn't apply to this horror fest.

***. She doesn't in any way take on a leading role. She's a damsel in distress. And, for that matter, so are the prostitutes. Storytelling 101, skip.

I gave you the definition and since it doesn't fit your prejudice, you say "***"?
Have you ever actually sold a script?
Have you actually seen the movie? She comes in and helps him out at the end. That's a protagonist, at least for that scene.

The women in Old Town, particularly the martial artist, do some serious ass-kicking and killing. Those are protagonists.
If you have some accomplishment other than usenet posts, let me know. I have to assume by some of your belligerence that you don't really know much about storytelling terms or constructs.
If you have some accomplishment other than usenet posts, let me know. I have to assume by some of your belligerence that you don't really know much about storytelling terms or constructs.

This isn't a pissing contest. The protagonist of a film is the one who drives the action.
Which isn't the prostitutes in "Sin City." The action is driven by Clive Owen's character he both brings the trouble into Old Town, but leads the way in cleaning up the mess.
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If you have some accomplishment other than usenet posts, let me know. I have to assume by some of your belligerence that you don't really know much about storytelling terms or constructs.

Ah. "Belligerence" is the sign of not knowing much about storytelling.

I'll make note of that.
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