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The next series, commence as THE TALE OF THE THREE APPLES: This short tale, start by the discovery of a box under the Tigris river, and in it is a fair girl in 19 pieces. Why is this girl in 19 pieces? It has nothing to do with 3 Apples, but if at all, just one Apple. This apple, a object of desire of the girl, passed hands from the Caliph's garden to her hubby's hand to her son and to a black slave, in which she is slain in the process without her knowledge.
from Burton's Arabian Nights:
http://xahlee.org/p/arabian nights/an10.html
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The next series, commence as THE TALE OF THE THREE APPLES: This short tale, start by the discovery of a ... hand to her son and to a black slave, in which she is slain in the process without her knowledge.

As Alan Bennett is fond of getting his characters to say "There's always trouble for someone".
I have to say the reminder that the great Caliph was fond of walking the City in disguise to check out what the dudes were saying about him prompts me to wonder what would happen if Dubya or Mr Tony decided to "go down into the city and question the common folk concerning the conduct of those charged with its governance" and if they would support the consequent action plan "those of whom they complain we will depose from office and those whom they commend we will promote." They'd certainly have no trouble with the likes of Condy or Powell crying "Hearkening and obedience!"
One thing that occurs to me with this story is that it has a strong resemblance to a plot line in "Desperate Housewives". Though the slave sounds more like Desperate Dan.

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i felt somehow that politicians dressed as commoners in town to see how they do is not uncommon in the past. For example, it is in Chinese folklore.
today we don't see leaders go down to town and self-evaluate because society has been changed by technology. They don't have to go down, they already constantly know and know quiet precise how their subjects like them. Technology has changed society so much and it has become so complex that hardly any of today's rulers (politicians) care how people evaluate them, even though they are in fact bombarded by such info at all times.
in the past, people become rulers more or less by heritage. Traffic and information do not travel well. Those in crown may have a info gap of what they know versus what street people know.
Today, the minute a person starts a career in politics, he is constantly aware how he is received. So the concept of going downtown to see how well he is doing, is foreign from this development.

in conjunction i need to say, that i think if Hitler is consider a criminal, George Bush is no less in criminal deeds. If German people are responsible for the unsuccessful genocide of Jews, the American people are responsible for the successful genocide of American Indians, as well as being the first and last actual users of weapons of mass destruction (and as late as this year are semi-secretly building more powerful nukes while simultaneously harass other nations in developing it, sans any blushing), the greatest unprecedented trader and user of human slaves (and chalking themselves as heros on how things turned out), the killing of 1.5 million people in China & Korea (~1950) and ~5 million around Vietnam 1957, and today some 50 or so thousands Islamics.
daily on the street we'll see car stickers by mostly WASPs that says "Support Our Troops", as if those who don't say that are unpatriotic ***.
(see http://xahlee.org/Periodic dosage dir/lanci/t5.html) Like, when the Japs fried the WASP's asses in Pearl Harbor, it is proper for Japanese citizens to also say "Support Our Troops"?

if there's any interest, one must read: What Desires are Politically Important, by Bertrand Russell, 1950:
http://xahlee.org/Periodic dosage dir/ p2/russell-lecture.html

please spread that article, to your friends, colleagues, family, enemies.
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in conjunction i need to say, that i think if Hitler is consider a criminal, George Bush is no less ... people in China & Korea (~1950) and ~5 million around Vietnam 1957, and today some 50 or so thousands Islamics.

Ah, nothing like stupidity. No one (sane) blames today's Germans for the Holocaust: we blame the Germans who carried it out. If you want to blame the Americans of the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries for the Indian genocide and for slavery, feel free. The Japanese deserved to be nuked, and we had every right to do so. I'm not going to dignify the rest of your blather with a response.
daily on the street we'll see car stickers by mostly WASPs that says "Support Our Troops", as if those who ... if there's any interest, one must read: What Desires are Politically Important, by Bertrand Russell, 1950: http://xahlee.org/Periodic dosage dir/ p2/russell-lecture.html

Oy, a Russell fan, no wonder your brain's atrophied.
Aaron Davies
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daily on the street we'll see car stickers by mostly ... proper for Japanese citizens to also say "Support Our Troops"?

What nonstandard definition of "WASP" are you using?

I repeat: Erk, this can't be!
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in conjunction i need to say, that i think if Hitler is consider a criminal, George Bush is no less ... people in China & Korea (~1950) and ~5 million around Vietnam 1957, and today some 50 or so thousands Islamics.

Great, another apologist for Hitler. Any country is guilty of atrocities if you go back 150 years and apply contemporary standards. And what kind of person would blame the United States for the North Korean and then Chinese invasions of Korea, or the Japanese invasion of anything they could get their hands on? Anyone who had refused to use the atomic bomb to end that war would have been guilty of an atrocity, because by failing to do so he would have sent millions of people to their deaths.
As to Iraq, well, perhaps next time they'll think twice before invading two neighboring countries, using poison gas, launching missiles at civilians in a non-combatant nation, ignoring their surrender agreement, gassing their own people, trying to shoot the planes sent to protect their own people, playing cat-and-mouse with UN inspectors, writing $20,000 checks to suicide bombers, bribing nations like France to toe their line, and attempting to assassinate a former president.

Josh
The Japanese deserved to be nuked, and we had every right to do so.

Yeah. Especially the toddlers padding around in
their diapers, carrying their teddy bears.
\\P. Schultz
As to Iraq, well, perhaps next time they'll think twice before invading two neighboring countries, using poison gas, launching missiles at civilians in a non-combatant nation, ignoring their surrender agreement, (etc etc etc)

As opposed to the U.S., which has nuked thousands
of innocent civilians, gathered American citizens
into concentration camps during WWII because of
their race, performed medical experiments on poor
black southerners, attacked women and children
with battle tanks, flame-throwers, and poison gas
at Waco, and in earlier times wiped out whole
villages of indigenous people upon official orders of the U.S. Army.
In the immortal words of U.S. crook Attorney
General John Mitchell:
"Open up! I know I'm in there! If I don't come out with my hands up, I'm going to blow my head off!"
\\P. Schultz
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The Japanese deserved to be nuked, and we had every right to do so.

Yeah. Especially the toddlers padding around in their diapers, carrying their teddy bears.

Yeah, well, someone should have explained that to the Chinese and Korean toddlers padding around in their diapers hey, toddlers, have some anthrax! and for that matter the Japanese toddlers who were dying in that war, not to mention the toddlers of the American servicemen who were dying.

Josh
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