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Dear teachers,

1) Would you say “I first experienced terror when I was

or

“I had first experienced terror when I was ?

We would say “I had known great poverty when I was

And not

“I knew great poverty when I was Right? But why?

2) Which versions would you accept here, please?

is one of the best known and most loved children’s adventure stories. It was first published in 1883 but 1 REMAINS / HAS REMAINED [are both tenses correct ?] popular 2 TO / TILL / UNTIL [are all these prepositions possible ?] this day. People 3 USED TO THINK / THOUGHT that the story was solely the work of Stevenson’s imagination, but recent research has uncovered the true origin of this thrilling tale 4 OF / ABOUT / ABOUT A [which ones are acceptable ?] hidden treasure and bloodthirsty pirates.

Many thanks,

Hela
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HelaOk then, but can I say : "It was first published in 1883 but HAS REMAINED popular TILL / UNTIL this day." ? or do I HAVE TO say "has remained TO this day" ?
Hello Hela

1. Treasure Island has remained popular to this day.

2. Treasure Island has remained popular until this day.

In #1, the period of TI's popularity = from the date of publication => today. We know no reason why the book should not continue to be popular.

In #2, the period of popularity = from the date of publication => an hour ago, when the British Government, under pressure from the National Psittacine Society (or NPS), decreed that all copies of Treasure Island should be recalled immediately and burnt.

Moreover, a MORI poll released in the last 30 minutes has shown a drastic shift in public opinion: 90% of British adults now state that they are quite frankly appalled by Long John Silver's treatment of his avian associate. The book's period of popularity is therefore at an end.

MrP
As a recap (just to see if I've got everything right).

1) to this day means that the book might still be popular in the years ahead;

2) until this day today marks the end of its popularity.

Correct / Incorrect ?

Now what about the difference between the use of "REMAINS and HAS REMAINED popular to this day"? Is REMAINS incorrect here?

Gratefully yours Emotion: smile
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Hello Hela

With "remain" in the present perfect, "to this day" may be a little redundant; but it stresses the "up to and including now" aspect.

With the simple present, however, "to this day" is redundant: the focus of the tense is firmly on the present, while the meaning of the verb takes care of the past.

So you'd simply say:

"X was published in 1883 and remains popular."

MrP
Thank you very much!
MrPedanticMoreover, a MORI poll released in the last 30 minutes has shown a drastic shift in public opinion: 90% of British adults now state that they are quite frankly appalled by Long John Silver's treatment of his avian associate. The book's period of popularity is therefore at an end.

MrP

Which is rather strange, as most people are appalled by events in the daily news, but they still buy newspapers and digest TV news with vigour.

:-(
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