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Hi everybody,

Could you please explain me when we use 'past perfect tense' and 'simple past tense' in the 'that clause'(noun clause)?

The structure is like this:

1) ...that past perfect

2) ...that simple past

Thank you
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Hi,

You mean you want a noun clause consisting just of 'that' followed by nothing but a verb tense?
That sounds very peculiar.

Please provide examples of a full sentence.

Clive
Hi again,

Perhaps you mean this?

Tom: Betty broke her leg.
Mary: I know that happened.
or
Mary: I knew that had happened.

Do you mean sentences like this? If so, we can discuss them.

Clive
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Yes,

Mary: I know that happened.

Mary: I knew that had happened.

And also,

Subject + verb+ that + subject + Past perfect/simple past
Hi,

You began by asking about 'that' as a demonstrative pronoun, and now you are also asking about 'that' as a conjunction.
Perhaps the simplest thing would be if you wrote a few sentences, so that we can see if and where you have problems.

Can you try that?

Clive
Yes,

Hi, I refered many examples and I think I am almost clear now.

1) I knew that he was a teacher.

2) I knew that he was playing football.

3) I knew that he had played football.

4) I knew that he played football.

I think only the fourth one is incorrect.
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Hi,
I refered many examples and I think I am almost clear now.

1) I knew that he was a teacher.

2) I knew that he was playing football.

3) I knew that he had played football.

4) I knew that he played football.

I think only the fourth one is incorrect. All 4 are correct. #4 sounds like you are describing his past habit.

Clive
Thanks Clive

I knew that he played football when he was small.

1) Is the above sentence meaningful?

2) Is 'while' possible?
Hi,

I knew that he played football when he was small.

1) Is the above sentence meaningful? Yes, it's a normal kind of sentence.

2) Is 'while' possible? Yes. Native speakers often make very little distincton between 'when' and 'while'.

Clive
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