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May I know for 'since' in "That's new since last time", which of meaning does it refer?

–adverb
1.
from then till now (often prec. by ever )

2.
between a particular past time and the present;subsequently

3.
ago; before now: long since.

–preposition
4.
continuously from or counting from

5.
between a past time or event and the present

–conjunction
6.
in the period following the time when

7.
continuously from or counting from the time when

8.
because; inasmuch as

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Hi,

Either #1 or #2. I don't really see any difference.

Clive
That is new since the last time.

Are you sure it's an adverb? I highly doubt so. It's not really describing the verb. I think it's a preposition in this context.

#1 is for "It has been .. since ..." referring to a duration of time that leads to now.

#2 is for something like "She refused at first, but has since agreed" referring to a point of time in the past that follows subsequently after a preceding event.

Both are different, how can they be the same Clive?
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I'd say 4.

CJ
Really? You've been whining since we left would be #4 - continuously starting from that point in time, but if I was there 2 years ago, and now I"m back and see a new hotel, or something, then either 1 or 2 make sense to me. At some point from our last visit until now, the new hotel was built.
It's kind of weird to see present tense with 'since'. Why wouldn't one just say 'That is new'? I mean 'since' is usually used to refer to a point in the past or a time interval that leads to the present, but not the present.
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Grammar GeekReally? You've been whining since we left would be #4
No. That would be 7. An adverb stands alone. A preposition has an object (and no verb). A conjunction joins to a clause (with a verb).

-adverb

I haven't seen him since.
I've done it that way ever since.
They have since changed the rules.

They've gone there by the other road ever since.

1. from then till now (often prec. by ever )
2. between a particular past time and the present;subsequently
3. ago; before now: long since.

-preposition
Since then I've been more cautious.
It's been that way since the war.
He's been sleeping since midnight.
She's been worrying about it since last time.

4. continuously from or counting from
5. between a past time or event and the present

-conjunction
He's been complaining since we left the restaurant.
She hasn't been the same since she had that accident.
Since no one is here, we've got the place to ourselves.

6. in the period following the time when
7. continuously from or counting from the time when
8. because; inasmuch as

CJ
Ugh. This is just one of the reasons why trying to name things is a challenge. I really can't see the difference between 4 and 7. But that's okay. I'm at peace with that, and I won't try to help others see the difference either! (Ignorance is bliss!)
Grammar GeekI really can't see the difference between 4 and 7.
I'll bet you can! The meanings are nearly identical but one is under the heading of "preposition", and the other is under the heading of "conjunction". Focus on part of speech first (in since last time), then read only the definitions within that category.

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CJ
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