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Boxer shorts (a form of normatively-male underwear) are called "shorts" by some people, but to me they're "boxer shorts" or ... would prefer briefs to boxer shorts, but that's not based on any personal knowledge. Also, boxer shorts are not shorts.

In US movies I've seen that they distinguish between "shorts" and "undershorts":-).

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Isn't there a shorts/underpants issue here? cf Bart Simpson 'eat my shorts'?

Boxer shorts (a form of normatively-male underwear) are called "shorts" by some people, but to me they're "boxer shorts" or ... would prefer briefs to boxer shorts, but that's not based on any personal knowledge. Also, boxer shorts are not shorts.

And it all seemed so clear, just a few short hours ago...
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Jolly good show. You will have observed that Mickwick's actual curiosity was even more exploratory.

Are you accusing me of playing pocket billiards?

Mickwick
Boxer shorts (a form of normatively-male underwear) are called "shorts" ... on any personal knowledge. Also, boxer shorts are not shorts.

In US movies I've seen that they distinguish between "shorts" and "undershorts":-).

"Undershorts" is used, but I think it's uncommon, and I think something of a euphemism.
Shorts, longs or breeches have been options throughout the year ... who wear shorts when they visit Greenland in the winter:-).

At this site: www.pinetreeweb.com/1929-times13.htm which reproduces the coverage in The Times* of the 1929 World Jamboree of Boy Scouts, there's ... Jamboree hospital". They look like the cast of *Billy Bunter on acid.) (** That's because they're voluminous shorts. Ho ho.)

When I was a Latvian Boy Scout in Germany, we wore shorts. I have a picture somewhwere, but I don't want to hunt for it right now. In general, whenever I have worn shorts, and I have done so in Latvia, Germany and the USA, I have preferred to wear the Steve Irwin type, not longer ones (I had nice legs, you know).
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I have owned and worn many tennis shorts, like these:
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I went with my daughter to look at the Hill ... called their 11th grade"Fifth Form", and 12th grade "Sixth Form".

But Sixth Form takes two years {that's why the last year should be called Seventh Form as has been done in New Zealand}.

In my British independent, or minor public, or whatever you call it these days, school, the Seventh Form was the third-year Sixth. I believe St Paul's called it "the Eighth".

Mike.
I'm also ambivalent on the subject of the leadership responding to the will of the people despite my sentence in ... will of the people, but they must also be willing to exercise leadership where it is to the overall good.

And who decides what is good?
Or progressive, for that matter. Different doesn't automatically mean better.

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But Sixth Form takes two years {that's why the last year should be called Seventh Form as has been done in New Zealand}.

In my British independent, or minor public, or whatever you call it these days, school, the Seventh Form was the third-year Sixth. I believe St Paul's called it "the Eighth".

My grammar school had so many pupils staying on for Oxford & Cambridge entrance exams after A-levels that they had a separate, named Year. So there was the Lower Sixth (what you might expect), the Middle Sixth (A-level year) and the Upper Sixth (post A-level).

David
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I've never had Spanish at school, only English, German, Latin and French.

French and Latin in short trousers, French, Russian, Latin, Greekand Hebrew in longs. Later (mostly jeans), French, German, Dutch,Spanish, Italian, Russian, Swedish, Arabic and Modern Greek. I can't speak any of them these days (thermal underwear).

My God, MW! Not the dreaded Damart, surely? You need to pop down to Tesco: they may still have a few thongs left twenty years younger, I assure you.

Mike.
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