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Hi! I would be very much obliged if anyone  could help me with one grammar question.Is there a difference between "provides support for classifying" and "provides support to classify"? I can find no rules on using to do vs for doing except for the list of some verbs. Can you help me? Many thanks in advance
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ginger25"provides support for classifying" and "provides support to classify"
Hi,

They're both fine.
This helps you in classifying X. This helps you to classify X.

I'd say the infinitive focuses more on the action and the gerund focuses more on the process, if that makes any sense. This choice of verbals varies with the verb, as I suspect you realize.

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Best wishes, - A.
It's "support for ( -ing)".

CJ
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Hi, CJ,

Are you advising against the infinitive?

How about, "We need your support to accomplish this task." ?

"We seek your support in accomplishing this task." ?

Regards, - A.
AvangiAre you advising against the infinitive?
Yes, given the limited amount of data to go by in the question. With more context I might change my mind.

I take the question to be specifically about the grammar of the noun support. The for phrase is meant to modify the noun support. We want to know what kind of support.

We ask, "What does this provide support for?" not "What does this provide support to do?"

An infinitive of purpose is possible, but then we're not modifying support; we're explaining why the support was provided. You can have both, of course:

We provided (financial) support for fixing the bridges to calm the fears of the citizens.

To my ear, only the for phrase describes the kind of support. Indirectly, I suppose, we support the calming of citizens' fears, but that's not the main point of the support.

It all depends on what meaning the original poster wanted.

CJ
Avangi"We need your support to accomplish this task." ?

"We seek your support in accomplishing this task." ?
They both sound like purposes to me. "in order to accomplish this task". Still, the second one might possibly shade into a description of what kind of support is needed. "task-accomplishment support"??? No, that's not like "bridge-fixing support" in my previous post.

On this one, the more I think about it, the worse my powers of analysis become. Emotion: smile

CJ
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CJ, your arguments sound...sound. I only have one objection though: in order to be more correct, it would be preferable if we used the Causative Form; that is, 'for having/getting the bridges fixed.' I know I am now shifting the focus of the discussion, but I love details as much as you do.

1) Eg. He went out to laugh.

He wanted to laugh or he could not help laughing and so he had to go out to do so.

...to do.. generally indicates 'purpose'

2) Eg. He was sent out for laughing (during the class).

He must have laughed while the class was going on and as a punishment, he was sent out for doing so.

...for doing.. generally indicated 'reason'

Some tricky contexts:

He got a huge discount for shopping there regularly. (reason)

He went there for shopping. (purpose)

Hope it is clear enough now.

regards and thanks

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lime build 1551) Eg. He went out to laugh. ...

I hope you realize that the original question was asked more than 8 years ago. It's the only question this user ever asked on the forum, so I'm sure he or she is no longer visiting the forum to check on possible answers.

I'm just mentioning this in case you didn't know.

CJ

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