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1. He is much loved.

2. He is much interesting.

3. Your thoughts were much appreciated.

4. This is a much needed development.

5. His face is much red.

6. It was a very stimulating discussion.

7. It was a much stimulating discussion.

If 1, 3, 4, 6, why not 2, 5, 7?

MrP
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Hi,
I see. (I don't remember .. I missed some point in page 1, maybe.)
You're right, but how about "It is not much interesting."

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I'm still much interested!
I googled "it is not much interesting" and found a few pages that use this phrases. Two of them are from Japan, one from India, one from Czech, one from Thailand, and one from an unknown country.

paco
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Hi paco, I wasn't careful enough to check the content. Sorry for that.
Then .. how about ' ~be not so much interesting.'?
In negation, it is possible, at the very least, to use 'much' with adjectives. I felt curious about that.
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Maybe I missed this point:
{quote=MrP} I would take the 'good' in 'not much good' as a noun; cf. 'not much use', 'not much of a last theorem'.
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Please allow me to give fairly elementary question; how do the following sentences sound to your ears?

[1] I found it very intriguing.

[2] I found it not much intriguing.
[3] I found it not very intriguing.

(I ask you because I thought [2] was better but got coufused now, maybe I mixed up something again! in that case I'm really sorry...!)

Nice talking to you. Thank you for your help.
Hello Roro

I think neither "much adjective" nor "not much adjective" is acceptable. But we can use "be not so much adj-1 as adj-2" to mention which of the two adjectives is more appropriate to qualify the subject.



  • (EX) The summer weather in Japan is not so much hot as humid.



  • (EX) Indian food is not so much hot as spicy.



  • (EX) The actress is not so much attractive as beautiful.
  • paco
Paco2004
I googled "it is not much interesting" and found a few pages that use this phrases. Two of them are from Japan, one from India, one from Czech, one from Thailand, and one from an unknown country.

paco

Hello Paco, nice to see you on this thread!

I must admit, I don't find this phrase ("it is not much interesting") idiomatic. It sits a little unhappily in the ear!

MrP
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Paco2004
Hello Roro

I think neither "much adjective" nor "not much adjective" is acceptable. But we can use "be not so much adj-1 as adj-2" to mention which of the two adjectives is more appropriate to qualify the subject.



  • (EX) The summer weather in Japan is not so much hot as humid.



  • (EX) Indian food is not so much hot as spicy.



  • (EX) The actress is not so much attractive as beautiful.


  • paco

    Curiously, I began the thread after pondering 'as much + adjective + as + adjective', and whether the structure was ungrammatical, unidiomatic, or simply redundant! (vs 'as ADJ as ADJ'). Or indeed, perfectly ok.

    MrP

Hi paco again, thank you for your reply. I'd better go back to square one. To start with I'll go back to the page 1 and re-read every posts carefully, especially materials.

You said: I think neither "much adjective" nor "not much adjective" is acceptable.

{But, paco, ... please take a look at the original title of this thread...}

I hope you are enjoying this humid Sunday evening!
Roro{But, paco, ... please take a look at the original title of this thread...}
Hello Roro

Do you mean "much past participle"? Of course I excluded past-participle-derived adjectives in my discussion.

You too enjoy Sunday evening with your family.

paco
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Hi paco.
I see. I just thought that 'interesting' .. well, ahem, at least 'intriguing,' could be, if rarely, borderline cases as to the distinction 'participle/adjective'.

Well, I'd better make a fresh start! Thank you for your time, paco.

Take care,
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