I didn't plan to. It just sort of happened (my wife brought it home).

Not absolutely, positively, totally horrible. Just long. Very long.

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Leonardo DiCaprio? Why? He may be a fairly decent actor (at least some people think he is), but as Howard Hughes? Maybe Howard Hughes at 15, but as a man? I'm sorry, I just couldn't get past the "kid playing an adult with the big people clothes" thing. Leonardo DiCaprio just doesn't look like he's grown up yet not his fault, just reality. Consequently his girlfriends (especially the woman playing Kate Hepburn) tend to come across as his mothers.
Maybe I'm the only one who couldn't get past the kid thing, but it made the whole movie hard for me to watch.
I also had a problem with the overall theme which didn't seem to exist. Lots going on, lots of splash and noise, a long series of garish events, but coming from where* and leading to *what? "Quarantine?" Was that it? The whole point?
For example, they must have spent 30 minutes on the "Hell Fighters" sequence. I understand that it took a long time to make this movie, but couldn't this have been shown in about half the time in "The Aviator?" The whole thing seemed out of proportion and almost pointless.

The whole movie seemed this way. Long build-ups and small payoffs.

What I did like about the movie is all the stuff about TWA, PanAm (Alan Alda did a great* crooked politician) and Hughes Aircraft. Now I would really like to see a good documentary on Hughes, his airplanes and TWA which I think would be much more interesting than the movie. But even here, when dealing with Hughes' innovations, "The Aviator" dwelled on three failures. A speed plane that crashes. A spy plane that crashes. And the "Spruce Goose" which flew one time and became a tourist trap. Hughes Aerospace became a very big corporation. They must have made *something that actually worked!
Some folks see quality in this movie. Nominated for 5 Oscars and pretty highly regarded on IMDB. Maybe I'm just getting jaded in my old age.

RonB
"There's a story there...somewhere"
RonB expressed precisely :
Leonardo DiCaprio? Why? He may be a fairly decent actor (at least some people think he is), but as Howard ... his fault, just reality. Consequently his girlfriends (especially the woman playing Kate Hepburn) tend to come across as his mothers.

Gosh, I hope this poster on imdb doesn't surf Leo's name and find this post. She thinks he's THE GREATEST ACTOR OF HIS GENERATION!!! That he was perfect for this role. That he worked 15 years to get it made (yeah, a guy 30 years old). That Leo, not Jamie ***, should have won the AA because Jamie was just imitating a blind guy, but Leo was, oh, I don't know, 'channeling' Hughes. Boy, howdy, she'd give you what for.

Jeri Jo & Little Garcia Bear
RonB expressed precisely :

Leonardo DiCaprio? Why? He may be a fairly decent actor ... playing Kate Hepburn) tend to come across as his mothers.

Gosh, I hope this poster on imdb doesn't surf Leo's name and find this post. She thinks he's THE GREATEST ... imitating a blind guy, but Leo was, oh, I don't know, 'channeling' Hughes. Boy, howdy, she'd give you what for.

And I know you're probably not kidding.
("Just a joke, ma'am, just a sick, pathetic attempt at a joke. That's okay, I'll just eviscerate myself, thank you, and save you all that trouble.")

RonB
"There's a story there...somewhere"
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I didn't plan to. It just sort of happened (my wife brought it home). Not absolutely, positively, totally horrible. Just ... pretty highly regarded on IMDB. Maybe I'm just getting jaded in my old age. RonB "There's a story there...somewhere"

Well, on some level, the choices connect, I think, to the larger theme of Hughes as a man who, because of this fatal flaw of his, is constantly reaching for the sky and then falling. And so you have that being repeated in various guises throughout the movie reaching, achieving some record or some great victory and then the collapse, the fall the failure to achieve any ultimate victory, not in the air, not in his personal life, not over his personal compulsions there is always that achievement followed by the fall.

But I think that what we're supposed to take from it is that here's this guy who is haunted by this demon that he's never going to defeat and yet despite that despite the falls, he keeps rising, keeps dreaming, keeps reaching for the next star (ahem).

Of course, as somebody who suffers from OCD myself, that whole opening with the mother talking to him about disease and all of that, really annoyed me because it suggests that somehow Hughes' condition, or OCD in general, is a neurotic one it had to do with how his Mom raised him.
It's not it's a neurological condition. It doesn't have anything to do with how you were brought up.
Personally, I wish Scorsese would stop making epics and go back to making the kind of movies that are a bit closer to his nature.

NMS
Well, on some level, the choices connect, I think, to the larger theme of Hughes as a man who, ... and yet despite that despite the falls, he keeps rising, keeps dreaming, keeps reaching for the next star (ahem).

Thanks. I wasn't perceptive enough to pick up on this. I'm still not crazy about the movie, but at least this makes sense.

RonB
"There's a story there...somewhere"
I didn't plan to. It just sort of happened (my wife brought it home). Not absolutely, positively, totally horrible. Just long. Very long.

I didn't think it was horrible at all, but I do agree 100% with your views on Leonardo DiCaprio (snipped from this reply).

Hughes was a MUCH bigger character than DiCaprio could possibly have achieved. Also there was no reference to his later years, as though they were of no consequence (!). It would be like having a biopic about Hitler and stopping just short of World War II. (Oh, and talking about Hitler, there was no reference to Hughes' racism, antisemitism, etc etc that was well reported).
I thought Cate Blanchett however was absolutely superb. And I'm not really a fan of hers. 100% deserved the Oscar.
In fact, come to think of it, I think all the Oscars for the main categories were pretty much spot on this year. I haven't yet seen Closer so I don't know whether any actors there were hard done by (Clive Owen, Natalie Portman, etc) but failing that I've seen them all and I think the Academy got it right this year.
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I didn't plan to. It just sort of happened (my wife brought it home). Not absolutely, positively, totally horrible. Just long. Very long.

I didn't think it was horrible at all, but I do agree 100% with your views on Leonardo DiCaprio ... Portman, etc) but failing that I've seen them all and I think the Academy got it right this year. .

I thought all four actors in Closer, including Julia Roberts, took big risks, displayed nuanced and difficult emotional states, and showed different sides of the same character with great skill. They SHOWED people being both vulnerable and savage, and I can't believe they all got overlooked, if they did..Portman & Roberts lack of technical chops showed next to Law and Owens, IMHO, but they more than made up for it with the skills they did bring to the screen. Again, IMHO. I know lots of folks disagree...
As for Hughes, they should have narrowed the story to one of the pivotal events, not stuffed them all into one sausage case, imho. The Senate hearings, or the first movie, or the crash, or the disintegrated Las Vegas years. Again, IMHO.
Mysti Lou Who, Whoville
It's not it's a neurological condition. It doesn't have anything to do with how you were brought up.

And it's NOT characterization, which is what cheezed me off, now you've given me a whole new set of things to be annoyed about! Wasn't this a hire job though? Not a project he brought to the studio? I don't know where I got that impression...
Mysti
It's not it's a neurological condition. It doesn't have anything to do with how you were brought up.

And it's NOT characterization, which is what cheezed me off, now you've given me a whole new set of things to be annoyed about! Wasn't this a hire job though? Not a project he brought to the studio? I don't know where I got that impression...
Mysti
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