I've seen that there are a lot of threads concerning a special country.
Well, if you don't mind, I'd love to know what you know and think about Germany or Germans, even prejudices ***, would be really great...
Thanks for your replies.
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Hi Mac,

I have not spent more than a few hours in Germany, so I can't say anything about the people as they are when they're home in their own country. I have, though, known several German people in the UK and the USA, and they were all very different from each other, as are people from any country.

One of them was a hero who ran out of a pub in North London to help me when I was out there alone stopping two drunk villians, who were just out of Pentonville Prison, from raping two girls. He was somewhat injured in that scuffle but, even limping along with his cane during recovery, he always kept up high spirits. We became good friends later. A very cool guy. The English people who were in the pub were still watching us through the window after it was all over and we had the villians chased away. Pathetic cowards, and we took those scars to save two English girls.

One of them was a professor of design at a university in the USA. He was a big, fat pig and quite unable to eat anything at all without managing to spit some of it on you. Once when I saw him eating a banana I thought, "Oh good, he can't possibly get any of this one on me", then he reached out and touched my arm with banana smears on his hand. haha. He liked to invite innocent, young, female students to his home for a private dinner and then, after they were filled up with sausages and pickled cabbage, chase them around the dinner table. After he did that to two female art student friends of mine I had a good talk with him and made him understand that if he ever did it again I would come to his home and chase him around the table. As far as I know he stopped this behavior after that little chat. He was an old-school chauvinistic German male. Unevolved, decadant and thoroughly morally corrupt. Not a good representative of your country at all. haha.

One of them was a wonderful artist with whom I shared a home in the USA for two years. She had a great spirit and was always kind and polite to everyone, unless they were rude. She held the terrible memories of being a small child and sitting in a forest in 1944 with many of her neighbors, watching them give poison to their children. Of watching the children and adults die slowly in horrible pain, because the poison was bad. They did this because the Russian soldiers were about the arrive in their area and they had heard that they would all be tortured and raped and killed. Her mother was still holding the poison in her hand when the Americans arrived, so they survived that nightmare. She is gone now and I miss her.

Generally speaking, I have the impression that Germans are a very social people. I am not sure why I have this idea, but I get the sense that they prefer doing things in groups more than the people in some other countries.


That type of thing. haha Emotion: smile

I do not have any real prejudices about Germans and I have read that Germany is the economic dynamo for all of Europe. I know that it must have taken a lot of hard work for Germany to bounce back like that after the devastation of the 1940s. You should be proud to come from such an industrious and affluent country with such a long and interesting history.

I think I recall that some British kings were German, and that at least one of these German-British kings did not even speak any English at all. I guess this means that the next king of England, Charles or Harry, will be a descendent of partially German blood.

I almost never meet any Germans online. I have guessed that maybe this is because they avoid the forums and chatrooms that use English because they like their own language, and also maybe because of the stupid prejudices about that old war that could be posted to them in those places.

I am glad you are here Mac.

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Well, I lived about a year with a German woman in her mid-twenties and I found her to be very social and polite and very conscious of her rights. However, she was a bit of a pig when it came to cleaning the rooms, especially the toilet. She would not touch anything there. I found it quite odd considering she was studying to be a doctor so.. I think touching sick people is worse than cleaning toilet seat!! Heh. And she was not into washing dishes either.Emotion: smile

I have never visited Germany but it seems that a lot of people go there to drink beer. LOTS of beer. And then come back with a big beer belly. Hehe.
I particularly don't like German guys when they have had a bit too much to drink. I remember quite a few years ago I was in a hotel with a friend of mine having something to drink when this huge blond German hulk came over me and grabbed me in his arms. I was so taken aback that I couldn't utter a single word. Not one minute had gone by when I realised he wanted to throw me into the swimming pool as he was making his way towards it. Thank God my friend reacted and started hitting him with her handbag. She said something to him in German and he let go off me. Can you guess why i try to avoid German guys when I am near a pool?
Thank you very much for your replies all of you, they are really fascinating to read Emotion: smile

At my uni, our exchange students regularly do a presentation in what they mention (cultural)differences in Germany in contrast to their home countries and that's always very interesting.
I always get things to know I never would have thought of before. ***
(e.g. that Germans don't cross a road if the traffic light shows red, that Germans always use fork and knife while having a meal... things like that - and that's true btw ***).

Trellis, it seems you met lots of different people.
I've often been told that Germans are not really that social, and it's very difficult to get to know them - which is true in certain cases I'd say - but as soon as the ice melts, the sociality comes out ***

It's true that there's German in the British Royal Family, but I don't know in how far. I was told that Queen Elizabeth II. can speak German, and I think also Queen Mum could speak it.

Interesting is the last thought you mentioned:
"I have guessed that maybe this is because they avoid the forums and chatrooms that use English because they like their own language..."
--> This isn't true; actually this is a very complex thing:
First of all: Most people aged 30 and younger have learned or are learning English at school and have at least some knowledge about the language.

German language is also very strongly influenced by English, i.e. we use loads (really loads!!) of English words in our language, and it gets more and more every day. Especially in commercials and advertisements, but also everywhere else, it's nearly impossible not to use English words.
Also we make new words up, which seem to be English and which are pronounced English, but they aren't English. The most popular example here is: "Handy". Handy is the German word for cell phone!! Another one is "Talkmaster" which is talk show host in English.

Remarkable here is btw that esp. verbs take over German inflection, so we have e.g. words like "e-mailen", "usen", "downloaden", "checken", "einchecken"(to check in) ... which are pronounced in the English way, but have German inflection in addition when used in diferent tenses like:
"Ich habe gee-mailt" (I have e-mailed); "Er checkt seine Post" (He checks his mail); "Ich habe eingecheckt" (I've checked in)... etc.

Unlike Germany, France e.g. has an institution (the Accademie de la Francais) that cares of language and for example makes laws concerning the use of foreign words. They also regulate that there aren't too many English songs broadcast from French radio stations, while in Germany, noone cares (most songs in the Hitlists are English here).

Germans also have difficulties in being proud of something that has to do with their country. Hardly anyone would e.g. say that he's proud of being a German, that has to do with World War 2, of course.
You will also hardly find German flags in, at, or around towns or houses. Germans usually thought/(think) that if they had one in the garden, that would mean they were ***, so hardly anyone did/(does) it. ->That has been very slowly changeing for a few years. This way of thinking is now developing here and you can notice that people here get more and more open minded to these topics and sometimes you can already find a German flag in someone's garden, which was quite impossible about 5-10 years ago.
And even talking about the war is not really a problem anymore.

>>I am glad you are here Mac.
Thanks, trellis, so am I Emotion: smile

Thank you very much again for all your replies and please go on posting if you have some more thoughts to share. It's really incredible what you can learn about yourself and your own culture/country by a view from outside. Emotion: smile

Have a great day, hope to talk to you soon

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Hi Mac,

That was an interesting post about Germany.

Would you mind translating your signature text to English?
I tried doing it at a translation web site but I got a text with half of the words still in German.

Hehe - I bet it's impossible to translate it with a usual translating web site because my signature is in Middle-High-German Emotion: smile

I already posted something about it, now I'll see if I'm clever enough to use your linking html code Emotion: wink
Here we go... -->

Have fun
Thank you for linking me to the page with your translation.
I like the quote very much.
From the 13th century. Wow!

Your link worked fine. Good job. Emotion: smile

Nice to see you back.
Were you off on another travelling adventure?
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