i'm looking for non-confusing way to learn english.

i mean, i know stuff from school, but, i hate how they teach it, it is so much scattered. one day we learn grammar, other listening, other speaking, and then again in circle.

i'm not that type of learner. i get super confused and lost, and forget everything. like i forgot everything.

there is some good book Raymond-Murphy-English-Grammar-in-Use , but a lot of chapters, are boring and obvious, and i dont learn nothing from obvious stuff.

i mostly have hard time, with verb recognition, and questions, and those stuff that have to do with making a grammar correct sentence.

other things, don't bother me, i don't want to get phd in order to learn english. i just want to get better grades, as i feel we always learn present simple vs present perfect, god forbid, why english lectures are always repeating, and adding to confusion. why they cant be just lay down roadmap, learn, and get over with it once for all. i hate because we have it in every semester, we had in school, it's so boring and obvious, and when they try to teach hard stuff, they just confuse me.


It sounds like you need something especially suited for your learning style.

Try out a variety of books and methods and devise a self-paced learning course for yourself. There are hundreds of online tutors with courses on YouTube.

Also many people learn English from subtitles on movies, and don't bother learning formal rules of grammar. Seven-year-old Americans speak English fluently without having had one single lesson in grammar!

Just keep poking around until you find the "glove" that fits your style.


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the problem is, that i'm very analytical person, so i need everything sorted out (organised) what is for what purpose.

that trait is serving me extremely well in engineering, coding, etc, but when it comes to stuff like languages, where i can't categorize things easily, but need forever 'practice' to see 'difference'.

i mean, i wouldn't even bother, i know english from speaking point of view, how to structure sentence, etc, but it's because i always get low grades on english. i just don't know how to improve. i need some structure, to sort stuff, categorize, which i can't find do in endless 'examples' of english lessons.

cpu taeal 555that trait is serving me extremely well in engineering, coding, etc,

That's because those fields are based on mathematics.

Languages are not based on mathematics. Trying to fit the rules of language into a box that's made for mathematics will cause a lot of grief in the learning process.

There is no shortcut. Language learning requires a lot of boring repetition and memorization of words, verb forms, and rules, exceptions to rules, exceptions to exceptions to rules, and so on. And sometimes there is no rule. You just have to memorize individual phrases so that you can say them or write them whenever you need them, even if they don't follow the usual rules of grammar.

Some people seem to get the hang of languages by reading massive amounts in the target language. I don't know if you've tried that or if that would even work for you.

Others seem to catch on more from speaking with native speakers as much as possible. This may involve making friendships with native speakers, which may help you see the language from the point of view of culture rather than from the point of view of rules of grammar. I don't know if that would help you either.

You'll have to experiment with different methods to see what helps you most. Don't neglect the possibility of learning a few little points here and there from YouTube videos as well. They won't teach you everything, but they sometimes have some good points worth remembering.

cpu taeal 555i always get low grades on english.

That may be a matter of focusing on very small things that wouldn't make any difference in engineering but do make a difference in language learning.

Also, it may be that you won't get better until you read material that is a lot like the kind of material you are expected to write about. You can pick up little turns of phrase that are used in your readings and then try to write in imitation of what you read, using these turns of phrase.

I don't suppose you've considered taking a course in writing, but that could actually help if you have a good teacher.


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