From "Bad Boys", the guy said 'whup his ass'. Now I don't find 'whup' in dictionary, but I guess it's close to 'whip', right? Why the word 'whup' anyway? Black English?
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From "Bad Boys", the guy said 'whup his ass'. Now I don't find 'whup' in dictionary, but I guess it's close to 'whip', right? Why the word 'whup' anyway? Black English?

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From "Bad Boys", the guy said 'whup his ass'. Now I don't find 'whup' in dictionary,

It's in MWCD11 and American Heritage 4th for that matter.
but I guess it's close to 'whip', right? Why the word 'whup' anyway? Black English?

Scots-Redneck English.

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From "Bad Boys", the guy said 'whup his ass'. Now I don't find 'whup' in dictionary, but I guess it's close to 'whip', right? Why the word 'whup' anyway? Black English?

Why is there a tendency and this is not specific to 'nick' to assume unfamiliar forms are "Black English"?
You need a new dictionary. The first two entries below are from close to the minimally acceptable English dictionaries:
(From the tiny COD10:)
whup /wVp/
· v. (whupped, whupping) informal, chiefly N. Amer. beat; thrash. – ORIGIN C19: var. of whip.
(From the MWCD11)
Main Entry:whup
Pronunciation:****, ****
Function:transitive verb
Inflected Form:whupped ; whup£ping
Etymology:alteration of whip
Date:1852
1 : to administer a beating to especially as punishment
2 : to defeat decisively

(The massive OED2 has somewhat less to say:)
whup
(hwVp)
Sc. and U.S. colloq. and dial. var. of whip v.
"whup" appears 24 places in the OED2. Note that Black Americans are the targets of the whupping in at least two of these:

Listed by entry date

1 c825 run, v. chance to ‘whup’ (Chicago) or ‘run’ (Los Angeles,
2 c900 wattle, n.1 ae jockey's whup, nor drover's wattle Can frighten
3 a1250 whip, v. on urge to ‘whup’ the Commies.
4 a1250 whip, v. es III. 164 Whup,..to vanquish, to punish, to tire.
5 a1250 whip, v. e wanted to whup a ***?
6 a1250 whip, v. 4 Whyn't ya whup her, Ma?.. Go on, give her a whup.
7 a1250 whip, v. sissippi 68 Whup,..Negro for whip.
8 a1250 whip, v. U.S. dial. whup, 6– whip.
9 a1300 stank, n. Poems 3 Wi' whup an' spur, thro' stenk an' stoore,
10 c1325 whip, n. y hes a bit whup o' illness.
11 c1325 whip, n. ipp, (9 Sc. whup), 5– whip.
12 a1400 whoop, v. p, whooppe, whup, 6–7 whoope, 6– whoop.
13 c1450 whoop, int. ria iii. i, Whup, hoida: what, in all hast?
14 c1450 whoop, int. leloo, with whup hoo, there goes the Ape of Tully.
15 c1450 whoop, int. (1876) Fj, Whup (Faustulus) all draw ny thee That
16 c1450 whoop, int. rs must cry whup, The goale is got, and now the ga
17 c1450 whoop, int. e, 6 whoup, whup, 6–7 whop, 7 whoope.
18 1609 suck-egg , and still whup me the living daylights out of an
19 1611 whoo-whoop, who-whoop, int. and n. rhu, a whoo-whup; or, thecall+or whooping of hunt

20 1611 whoo-whoop, who-whoop, int. and n. Also 7 whoo-whup, 8–9whooup, 9 who-oop, who(o)-ho

21 1909 whyn't, v. 5 Whyn't ya whup her, Ma?.. Go on, give her a whup.
22 whip- trade as a ‘whup-the-cat’ for fivepence a day and
23 whup, whuph, whur whup, whuph, whur
24 whup whup

Martin Ambuhl
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Why the word 'whup' anyway? Black English?

Ebonicxxx.
From "Bad Boys", the guy said 'whup his ass'. Now ... to 'whip', right? Why the word 'whup' anyway? Black English?

Why is there a tendency and this is not specific to 'nick' to assume unfamiliar forms are "Black English"?

Long story, from long ago. Late 60s.
New GM plant manager (fairly responsible position, fairly highly paid, new car every week (for "testing")) promoted from Texas moves into expensive Farmington Hills MI neighborhood. First week there, the dishwasher stops working. Wife (also from Texas) calls repairmen and they keep promising to come, but never show up. After about a week of this, she approaches her neighbor in tears. (Switch to Texas accent, which I cannot write.) "Ah keep tellin' 'em Ah'm not black, Pat, but they still won't come." So Pat calls and there's someone there within an hour.
If it ain't familiar, it's bad, and we attach it to something else we don't like, thereby reinforcing both prejudices.
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From "Bad Boys", the guy said 'whup his ass'. Now ... to 'whip', right? Why the word 'whup' anyway? Black English?

Why is there a tendency and this is not specific to 'nick' to assume unfamiliar forms are "Black English"?(snip longer answer)

Ease up, bro. The guy was asking about a movie whose major characters are all African-American. I think it was reasonable.

Nor do I see frequent speculation around here that an unfamiliar form is "Black English." Yiddish and German are suggested more often as sources of Americanisms.

Donna Richoux
If it ain't familiar, it's bad, and we attach it to something else we don't like, thereby reinforcing both prejudices. Oh, yeah, I almost forgot, the good thing is, that story couldn't happen today. We treat everyone as equals now.

See, folks, even an American can do irony.
Mrs. Bob and I dined at a casual local restaurant last night Red, Hot & Blue in Rosslyn, for you Greater Laurelians. As we were finishing, a pair of black gentlemen, probably in their fifties, sat themselves at an adjoining table. We fell into conversation with them, quite pleasant. We learned, among other things, that both had been brought up in North Carolina. As we were leaving, one of them commented on how much he had enjoyed chatting so naturally with a couple of white people.
We still have a long way to go.

Bob Lieblich
True story
From "Bad Boys", the guy said 'whup his ass'. Now ... to 'whip', right? Why the word 'whup' anyway? Black English?

Why is there a tendency and this is not specific to 'nick' to assume unfamiliar forms are "Black English"?

Because Black people speak English differently and it's hard to understand them. Rap or hip-hop are examples.
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