People are angry with Microsoft and its digtal rights dictatorship. Vista is garbage, rubbish, bloatware, crippled.
Have you switched to Linux yet? If so, which distribution?
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How about FreeBSD? Have you ever tried it? Yeah, I know it's a network OS for professionals but a couple of years ago having installed it on VMware I had a look at it
I tried, but never managed to get it installed. I believe it is a bit like Mac OS, isn't it?
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Not at all but it's very hard to use))) There are problems with soft
Vista runs better on high end machines. As a developer and systems administrator I noticed a significant increase in network functionality, response time, search time and the like with Vista Ultimate. Vista is hardly bloatware. Keep in mind that you have RAM for a reason; idle RAM is a waste of RAM. Vista uses whatever is available to make your computer faster (learn up on Vista's program caching). The only problems with Vista being 'crippled' is with the x64 version, otherwise I haven't seen any complaints as far as bugs or drivers go. People thought ill of Windows XP back when people were using Windows 2000. It'll take some time to work out a few kinks, however and overall: Vista's a great OS for those of us who have a better-than-average system.

I'm not a big fan of Linux, I do however run FreeBSD on my server (true Unix).

On a seperate note:

Oh no, not DRM. I definitely can't download free music, or buy from non-DRM vendors. I don't know why Vista's getting nailed for DRM when Apple was the one to really get the DRM ball rolling.

This is just one article on the Internet. I've seen tons of other articles that conflict on all the 'facts' this article has brought forth. Linux propaganda usually includes the usual data distortion.
Yo Bartie! I guess you work for Microsucks, yeah? Vista IS a pile of shit! Anyone who isn't a Microsucks lackie knows it!

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"Vista is hardly bloatware" I pissed myself when I read this!!! It is the slowext and most bloated piece of junk one could ever be stupid enough to get fooled into installing! None of the techies I know go anywhere near Vista! They all avoid it like it was the plague!

Just what parallel universe do you come from, Bartie? Even Microsoft themselves admit that Vista was a bad mistake!!! Just Google "Vista mistake"!


And the icing on the crappy Vista cake; http://www.theinquirer.net/en/inquirer/news/2007/04/21/microsoft-admits-vista-failure
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Just to make it perfectly clear;

Microsoft admits Vista failure

Actions speak louder than PR
By Charlie Demerjian in Beijing : Saturday, 21 April 2007, 12:20 PM

WITH TWO OVERLAPPING events, Microsoft admitted what we have been saying all along, Vista, aka Windows Me Two (Me II), is a joke that no one wants.
It did two unprecedented things this week that frankly stunned us.

Dell announced that it would be offering XP again on home PCs . The second that Vista came out, Microsoft makes it very hard for you to sell anything other than Me II. It can't do this on the business side because it would be laughed out the door, but for the walking sheep class, well, you take what you are shovelled.

This is classic abusive monopoly behaviour, Microsoft wrote the modern book on it. It pulled all the major OEMs in by twisting their arms with the usual methods, and they again all fell into line. Never before has anyone backpedalled on this, to do so would earn you the wrath of Microsoft.

But Dell just did. This means that Me II sales are at least as bad as we think, the software and driver situation is just as miserable, and Dell had no choice but to buck the trend. If anyone thinks this is an act of atonement for foisting such a steaming pile on us, think again, it doesn't care about the consumer.

What happened is, the OEMs revolted in the background and forced Microsoft's hand. This is a big neon sign above Me II saying 'FAILURE'. Blink blink blink. OK, Me II won't fail, Microsoft has OEMs whipped and threatened into a corner, it will sell, but you can almost hear the defectors marching toward Linux. This is a watershed.

The other equally monumental Me II failure? Gates in China launching a $3 version of bundled XP . Why is this not altruism? Well, it goes back to piracy and how it helped enforce the MS monopoly. If you can easily pirate Windows, Linux has no price advantage, they both cost zero.

With Me II, Microsoft made it very hard to pirate. It is do-able, you can use the BIOS hack and probably a host of others, but the point is, it raised the bar enough so lots of people have to buy it. Want to bet that in a country with $100 average monthly salary, people aren't going to shell out $299 for Me II Broken Edition ?

What did MS do? It dropped the price about 100x or so. I can't say this is unprecedented, when it made Office 2003 hard to pirate it had to backpedal with the student edition for about $150. This time though, things are much more desperate.

If you fit Microsoft's somewhat convoluted definition of poor, it still wants to lock you in, you might get rich enough to afford the full-priced stuff someday. It is at a dangerous crossroads, if its software bumps up the price of a computer by 100 per cent, people might look to alternatives.

That means no Me II DRM infection lock in, no mass migration to the newer Office obfuscated and patented file formats, and worse yet, people might utter the W word. Yes, you guessed it, 'why'. People might ask why it is sticking with the MS lock in, and at that point, it is in deep trouble.

So, it did the unthinkable, and dropped the price. I won't bother to hunt down all the exec quotes saying how people can't afford clean water would be overjoyed to sell kidneys to upgrade to the new version of Office, but they are out there. This was a sacred cow, and it is now hamburger backed up against the wall.

These two actions by Microsoft are proof of what I suggested three years ago . Microsoft has lost its ability to twist arms, and now it is going to die. It can't compete on level ground, so is left with backpedalling and discounts of almost 100 times.

What we are seeing is an unprecedented shift of power. It is also an unprecedented admission of failure. And the funniest part about the moves made? They are the wrong things to do. Microsoft is in deep trouble. µ

Microsoft admits Vista UAC prompts 'need work'

By Munir Kotadia and Liam Tung, ZDNet.com.au | 2008/05/23 12:32:02

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Scott Charney, head of Microsoft's Trustworthy Computing division, admitted this week that Windows Vista's User Account Control (UAC) prompts are not intuitive and confuse users.

In a video interview with ZDNet.com.au at the AusCERT 2008 conference this week, Charney said Microsoft needs to make improvements around UAC.

"Clearly there is work that has to be done around the UAC prompts — in part because of user feedback that they get the prompts at times they don't necessarily expect them and it is not intuitive.

"If you give people too many prompts in too many situations, they view it as an impediment to getting their work done and they just start clicking ok on everything," said Charney.

He said that the language used in prompts is also confusing.

"We give them dialogues and prompts that don't help them make the right decision as often as we would like. You can be surfing the Web and get a warning that this site is out of another site's control, or you may be passing data to another site. What is a user supposed to do with that information?

"You can click cancel and not do what you were trying to do, or you can accept the risk — we need to figure out better ways to mitigate that risk but let the user achieve their objective," he added.

Charney's comments echo those of Ivan Krstić, the former director of security architecture for the One Laptop Per Child project , who opened last year's AusCERT conference by claiming that desktop security was completely broken.

In an interview with ZDNet.com.au at last year's conference, Krstić said: "If you go to a Web site whose security certificate is for any reason not checking out, you get a dialogue box that you [require] strong Internet security [skills] to decipher," he said. "For anyone else, they get to do a random guess between yes, no and cancel. That's no way to protect anyone," he added.

Krstić said software vendors were "weaselling off responsibility for security to users" in order to "legally protect themselves".
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A Microsoft senior engineer, with the title "distinguished engineer," admitted to the Vista bloat and described his vision for the future -- Windows with a leaner core, WinMin, according to ITWire on Monday.

Each version of Windows has been more bloated. Worse, since the Internet, Microsoft's pride and joy OS hasn't been so safe. "An entire multi-billion industry has sprung up over the past decade devoted entirely to protecting the sorry asses of us poor dopes who have allowed ourselves to be conned into believing the next release of Windows will fix everything. And yet we continue to pay and pay believing that some day Microsoft will get it right," Stan Beer wrote.

ItWire heard from Eric Traut, a Microsoft distinguished engineer who admitted to the failings of Windows bloat. Mr. Traut envisioned a new "MinWin" core that's just 25 MB compared to Vista's 4 GB core. "...it's ... actually going to be a hypervisor virtualization layer for the next Windows operating system - or something like that," Mr. Beer noted.

Mr. Beer wondered why Microsoft is bothering and suggested just using a UNIX core. "Perhaps it's time for Winix," he wrote.
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I've been a programmer since I was 6 years old, and I'm 32 now. My current computer is a vicious beast of a machine - I installed Vista..

2 Months later, for many reasons (that I just can't be bothered to go into anymore) I had to remove it and revert back to XP.

I only miss the upgrade to the Address bar, and a couple of minor bits and pieces here and there.

If you think Vista is a good operating system, then you've lowered your standards way too far.


Try Mac OS X, even though I'm stuck to M$ until I can migrate all my code away from .NET (which I do love though) - OS X is just simply FAR superior. If you don't think so, there's a good chance you've probably not worked with it for more than 10 mins.

Really, this is done in my mind now.. There is no comparison, Vista is a disaster we waited for way too longhorn. Emotion: wink
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