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On 24 Mar 2005 06:26:47 GMT, CyberCypher
The Grammer Genious wrote on 24 Mar 2005:

Who ever said Franke has no sense of humour! Good show, Bill.

(Is this an instance of the positive feedback we've been warned about?)
As for "for my wife and I", they use it because they self-consciously believe it to be correct.

Everything that you say is said because you self-consciously believe it to be correct, so I don't see the point of your statement.

Self-consciously isn't the word I'd have used, but I think I see what obembe meant. Because the speakers have learned that 'My wife and I are...' is correct, they make sure to use that form in other contexts. Hypercorrection runs rampant in the half-informed. I've told you how my good friend in Westport insists that 'between you and me' is dead wrong. I ran into one of his brothers, he must have been, in Bellingham.
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HCYR. MHUYLNT?
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Maria Conlon
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SWITF?

HCYR. MHUYLNT? Translations provided upon request.

I'm beginning to think I'd be better off ignorant. (For one thing, I'm so good at it.)

Liebs
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Everything that you say is said because you self-consciously believe it to be correct, so I don't see the point of your statement.

Self-consciously isn't the word I'd have used, but I think I see what obembe meant.

Subconsciously, perhaps.
..Because the speakers have learned that 'My wife and I are...' is correct, they make sure to use that form in other contexts. Hypercorrection runs rampant in the half-informed.

And sometimes, "hypo-correction" comes into play. That is, the fully-informed those who could offer valid correction keep quiet because they are tired of being accused of pedantry or worse.

Maria Conlon
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HCYR. MHUYLNT? Translations provided upon request.

I'm beginning to think I'd be better off ignorant. (For one thing, I'm so good at it.)

Oh, please. You are not very good at being ignorant. I can name people right here in aue who are better at it than you. (Me, for instance, but I don't like to brag too much.)
Liebs One-time-only tagline: Hi, Tootsie

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Right back atcha, Liebs, though I wish you had a different nickname. How about Arell (think Areff)?
Right back atcha, Liebs, though I wish you had a different nickname. How about Arell (think Areff)?

Liebs has had more AUE nicknames than any other RR. In addition to Liebs, he's been, variously: Rob L., TOR, TCS, and probably others that I can't think of right now.

I repeat: Erk, this can't be!
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Right back atcha, Liebs, though I wish you had a different nickname. How about Arell (think Areff)?

My middle initial, which I don't bandy about lightly, is "E." This leads to "Ariel" with a British "A". Interestingly, some acquaintances of mine named their daughter "Ariel" and so pronounced it. This Ariel and our son Ben were in school together for several years in the era when I was working for a private law firm and frequently identified at work by my initials. Imagine the confusion ...
Liebs has had more AUE nicknames than any other RR. In addition to Liebs, he's been, variously: Rob L., TOR, TCS, and probably others that I can't think of right now.

Areff, this can't be! I can't believe anyone actually kept track of this stuff. I certainly didn't, though I confess that I remember them all now you bring them up. What I don't understand is how a modest, unassuming, non-controversial gent like I should attract so many nicknames. Still, I don't recall asking for any of them, so I guess I have no right to disclaim them either.

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