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Hi CJ,

Scene 1

Katniss Everdeen: President Snow. What an honor.

President Snow: My dear, I think we can make this so much simpler. If we agree not to lie to each other, what do you think?

Katniss Everdeen: Yes, I think that would save time.

President Snow: Sit down, please.

Scene 2

Johanna Mason: How do we know the wire's not gonna burn up?

Beetee: Because I invented it. I assure you, it won't burn up. [they all look at each other for a moment]

Johanna Mason: Well, it's better than hunting them down.

Katniss Everdeen: Yeah, why not? If it fails, no harm done anyway, right?

Peeta Mellark: Alright, I say we try it.

Finnick Odair: So what can we do to help?

Beetee: Keep me alive for the next six hours. That would be extremely helpful.


Are woulds in scene 1 and scene 2 would of probability?

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EverestCTSHi CJ,

Please do not address your posts to any specific person on the forum.

It seems to me there has already been an answer to the first part of this question in another thread, but it seems it has been deleted. Do you know anything about what happened?

CJ

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EverestCTSHi CJ,

Please do not address your posts to any specific person on the forum.

It seems to me there has already been an answer to the first part of this question in another thread, but it seems it has been deleted. Do you know anything about what happened?

CJ

I apologize for mentioning your name, CJ. I don’t know what happened to that post.

CalifJimIt seems to me there has already been an answer to the first part of this question in another thread, but it seems it has been deleted. Do you know anything about what happened?

This user was banned on another site (Using English) for deleting posts (which coincidentally were also about the modal "would").

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CalifJimIt seems to me there has already been an answer to the first part of this question in another thread, but it seems it has been deleted. Do you know anything about what happened?

This user was banned on another site (Using English) for deleting posts (which coincidentally were also about the modal "would").

Hey anon, you did that on purpose duplicating my post. Please don’t do that. Moderators, this person is copying my posts and asking them on other forums. Almost everything I ask her is my own. Please ban this person on this forum.

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EverestCTSI don’t know what happened to that post.

It's OK. I found it. I couldn't find it yesterday.

CJ

By the way, there's another copy of the same post that showed up today.

Would of probability

I've already answered it elsewhere, so I assume you reposted because you'd like someone else's opinion. So I won't answer it again.

CJ

CalifJim
EverestCTSI don’t know what happened to that post.

It's OK. I found it. I couldn't find it yesterday.

CJ

By the way, there's another copy of the same post that showed up today.

Would of probability

I've already answered it elsewhere, so I assume you reposted because you'd like someone else's opinion. So I won't answer it again.

CJ

Please help me, CJ. All you have to answer is whether would in the scene above are second conditionals or woulds of probability. You don’t need to explain anything.

EverestCTSAll you have to answer is whether would in the scene above are second conditionals or woulds of probability.

You have the idea that every use of "would" can be neatly placed into one and exactly one of a fixed number of categories that you've seen listed somewhere. You are overlooking the possibility that a use of "would" can belong to more than one category.

I have addressed this in my answer to this question at

Would

In short, you can argue that the "would"s in the scenes above are second conditionals or "would"s of probability. Personally, I like the description that these "would"s were used because they are opinions about imagined events. If you read my answer, you know this already.

CJ

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CalifJim
EverestCTSAll you have to answer is whether would in the scene above are second conditionals or woulds of probability.

You have the idea that every use of "would" can be neatly placed into one and exactly one of a fixed number of categories that you've seen listed somewhere. You are overlooking the possibility that a use of "would" can belong to more than one category.

I have addressed this in my answer to this question at

Would

In short, you can argue that the "would"s in the scenes above are second conditionals or "would"s of probability. Personally, I like the description that these "would"s were used because they are opinions about imagined events. If you read my answer, you know this already.

CJ

Thank you, CJ, for the reply. You looked at them two ways. In both ways, they were basically conditionals. The two ways was follows.
1: our agreement not to lie to each other would save time.

2: If we agree not to lie to each other, that would save time.

Sentence 1 can also be rewritten as, “if we agreed not to lie to each other, that would save time.” Sentence 2 can also be rewritten as, “if we agreed not to lie to each other, that would save time.” because the if cause is in present tense on purpose to make it more real. The sentence 1 and 2 are basically the same and they are second conditionals. Am I understanding you incorrectly?

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